Julian Morgans

Did anyone ever show any sympathy?

Did anyone ever show any sympathy?

And so when you got someone on the hook and they seem to believe that you're like some hot woman who wanted to like start a relationship or something, would you hand that conversation up to another department or what would happen?

And so when you got someone on the hook and they seem to believe that you're like some hot woman who wanted to like start a relationship or something, would you hand that conversation up to another department or what would happen?

Again, I want to highlight how streamlined and formalized this all is. Just like telemarketers in the West, these criminal groups in Myanmar have developed a script for every possible conversation. And I think that helps to explain why so many people are getting scammed every year. In 2023, Americans lost over $10 billion to fraud, and that was a 14% increase on the year before.

Again, I want to highlight how streamlined and formalized this all is. Just like telemarketers in the West, these criminal groups in Myanmar have developed a script for every possible conversation. And I think that helps to explain why so many people are getting scammed every year. In 2023, Americans lost over $10 billion to fraud, and that was a 14% increase on the year before.

Here in Australia, the numbers are a little bit lower, of course, but we still lost $476 million the same year. And in 2024, the world collectively lost a trillion dollars to scammers. And that was a record. And loads of this money is pouring into Myanmar, where new scammer farms are going up every month. But next episode, we're looking at the situation from the other side of the scam.

Here in Australia, the numbers are a little bit lower, of course, but we still lost $476 million the same year. And in 2024, the world collectively lost a trillion dollars to scammers. And that was a record. And loads of this money is pouring into Myanmar, where new scammer farms are going up every month. But next episode, we're looking at the situation from the other side of the scam.

We're going to meet a guy named Troy from Ohio, who in 2021 struck up a relationship with a woman he thought was living in Seattle. And he then lost every cent to his name, plus about $25,000 that he borrowed from the bank. And we're going to look at how scams like this go down from Q and Catalina's perspective. Thanks for listening and please subscribe.

We're going to meet a guy named Troy from Ohio, who in 2021 struck up a relationship with a woman he thought was living in Seattle. And he then lost every cent to his name, plus about $25,000 that he borrowed from the bank. And we're going to look at how scams like this go down from Q and Catalina's perspective. Thanks for listening and please subscribe.

If you're enjoying this and you want to offer some support, the single easiest thing that you can do is to subscribe. And just a huge thanks to Judah Tanner from Global Advance Projects, without whom this series would have never happened. Scandal Land is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and by Jamie Snyder.

If you're enjoying this and you want to offer some support, the single easiest thing that you can do is to subscribe. And just a huge thanks to Judah Tanner from Global Advance Projects, without whom this series would have never happened. Scandal Land is produced by Rachel Tuffery. Editing is by me, Rachel Tuffery, and by Jamie Snyder.

The audio is mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey. And this whole thing has been a Superreal production.

The audio is mixed by Jimmy Saunders, who also did our sound design. Our cover art is by Rich Akers. Our interns are Nina Fussell and Ellie Dickey. And this whole thing has been a Superreal production.

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

Hey, Julian Morgans here. I'm the host of Scammerland, but I'm also the host of a weekly show called What It Was Like. And the basic idea is that every episode I talk to someone who has lived through an extreme event. So think cults, serial killers, ghost stories, Princess Diana's paparazzi, Kurt Cobain's manager. And in all cases, you'll find out what it was like to be there.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's What It Was Like on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Hey, I'm Julian Morgans and this is Scammerland. This is the show about the modern state of scamming because it's changed.

In fact, Scammerland actually began as an episode on what it was like. So if you're enjoying this, you're probably going to love our other show. That's What It Was Like on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Hey, I'm Julian Morgans and this is Scammerland. This is the show about the modern state of scamming because it's changed.

All right, right now in 2025, if someone hits you up on Telegram or WhatsApp and they're getting a little chatty and you don't know them, the chances are that you're talking to someone living in slavery. You're probably talking to someone who's one of about 400,000 people living in a high security compound somewhere in Southeast Asia and being forced to scam the world.

All right, right now in 2025, if someone hits you up on Telegram or WhatsApp and they're getting a little chatty and you don't know them, the chances are that you're talking to someone living in slavery. You're probably talking to someone who's one of about 400,000 people living in a high security compound somewhere in Southeast Asia and being forced to scam the world.