Julian Morgans

From a Scammer Farm boss perspective, Katalia was a disappointing recruit. Instead of being this star customer service member, she was told to start sending out cold texts, like someone lower down in the hierarchy. And just to be clear, the company that she worked for, it specialized in targeting Europeans and Middle Eastern men using the crypto platform Binance.

From a Scammer Farm boss perspective, Katalia was a disappointing recruit. Instead of being this star customer service member, she was told to start sending out cold texts, like someone lower down in the hierarchy. And just to be clear, the company that she worked for, it specialized in targeting Europeans and Middle Eastern men using the crypto platform Binance.

And every day she had to reel in 10 people and get them engaged in conversation. Do you remember scamming anyone in particular that you felt sorry for?

And every day she had to reel in 10 people and get them engaged in conversation. Do you remember scamming anyone in particular that you felt sorry for?

She really wasn't overstating the risk here. Catalina's scammer farm was just slightly less brutal than Q's, but still, she saw people violently punished for far less.

She really wasn't overstating the risk here. Catalina's scammer farm was just slightly less brutal than Q's, but still, she saw people violently punished for far less.

Across the board, people in scammer farms are treated abysmally. And we're actually going to do a full episode on the way that death and torture has been just baked into the business model later in the series. But for the moment, we're going to stop for a quick ad break. And when we're back, we're going to check in on Q, who's also been thrown into this world of scamming. Hey, welcome back.

Across the board, people in scammer farms are treated abysmally. And we're actually going to do a full episode on the way that death and torture has been just baked into the business model later in the series. But for the moment, we're going to stop for a quick ad break. And when we're back, we're going to check in on Q, who's also been thrown into this world of scamming. Hey, welcome back.

So we're now going to leave Catalina and we're going to go back to Q, who is about 100 kilometers north in another scammer farm known as Taichung. And he's also thrown himself into work to survive.

So we're now going to leave Catalina and we're going to go back to Q, who is about 100 kilometers north in another scammer farm known as Taichung. And he's also thrown himself into work to survive.

There's a few differences, but also some similarities between Cattleya's compound and Q's. So the similarities are that they both have two departments doing scamming. So people doing cold outreach and people talking on the phone to warm leads. And Q, like Cattleya, he was doing cold outreach with daily KPIs.

There's a few differences, but also some similarities between Cattleya's compound and Q's. So the similarities are that they both have two departments doing scamming. So people doing cold outreach and people talking on the phone to warm leads. And Q, like Cattleya, he was doing cold outreach with daily KPIs.

Q had to hit no less than 60 conversations or he'd be beaten up, tasered, or made to run laps for several hours. And when I say conversations, what I mean is that he had to extract personal information such as a full first and last name, location, age, and occupation of 60 people every day or he'd get punished.

Q had to hit no less than 60 conversations or he'd be beaten up, tasered, or made to run laps for several hours. And when I say conversations, what I mean is that he had to extract personal information such as a full first and last name, location, age, and occupation of 60 people every day or he'd get punished.

And then that information was passed up the chain onto the next department responsible for sort of fostering intimacy with the victim. The owners of Q's company specialized in scamming American men aged over 40 on WhatsApp. So for 20 hours a day, every day, he was trying to initiate conversations. But actually, in most cases, the men, they kind of knew what he was up to.

And then that information was passed up the chain onto the next department responsible for sort of fostering intimacy with the victim. The owners of Q's company specialized in scamming American men aged over 40 on WhatsApp. So for 20 hours a day, every day, he was trying to initiate conversations. But actually, in most cases, the men, they kind of knew what he was up to.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They didn't know about this situation.

They didn't know about this situation.