Julie Holland

We're not encouraging or condoning.

We're just discussing.

Right.

I think that's a really good point is it is really difficult to get good information on what are considered illegal substances, right?

Because you're right, the governing bodies are just interested in demonizing them by and large.

Yeah.

And then you get the people who are unabashed advocates of it, right?

Right.

And that's not what you want either.

No.

And I'm not saying it's perfect, but you want something a little bit closer to what we get with...

FDA-approved drugs where you have some sense of the truth being disseminated to some degree about the pros and the cons, the side effects, the benefits.

Shamans gone wild.

Yep.

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