Julie Kelly
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So the pardon, as the president said during the signing ceremony last night, is a full pardon. So that applies to close to now 1,600 J6 defendants. There was a carve out there, Charlie, for 14 individuals whose sentences have now been commuted. And those were all members or associates of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
And I believe that he said that those cases will be reviewed also for pardons. And I believe His final decision will be similar to what we saw yesterday, pardoning those individuals, many of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a terrorism statute usually reserved, Charlie, for real terrorists, not political protesters. So I'm sure the president will reach the same decision.
And I believe that he said that those cases will be reviewed also for pardons. And I believe His final decision will be similar to what we saw yesterday, pardoning those individuals, many of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a terrorism statute usually reserved, Charlie, for real terrorists, not political protesters. So I'm sure the president will reach the same decision.
And then what's happening today, Charlie, there were several J6-related court proceedings in Washington scheduled for today. including one case going to the jury for a verdict. And you have the new DC U.S. attorney, Ed Martin, who I believe that you know, who is a friend of mine, and he's already filing motions to dismiss those indictments. And I know that judges were forced to do that today.
And then what's happening today, Charlie, there were several J6-related court proceedings in Washington scheduled for today. including one case going to the jury for a verdict. And you have the new DC U.S. attorney, Ed Martin, who I believe that you know, who is a friend of mine, and he's already filing motions to dismiss those indictments. And I know that judges were forced to do that today.
And boy, I wish I was there to have seen those judges have to drop those cases. That would have been another incredible moment.
And boy, I wish I was there to have seen those judges have to drop those cases. That would have been another incredible moment.
And Charlie, that obviously was something you were very adamant about is emphasizing the lack of due process, the constitutional rights violations at play in this prosecution. So that is, of course, something that we added to the consideration. And I know that the president himself is fully aware of what these prosecutors and judges have been doing for more than four years.
And Charlie, that obviously was something you were very adamant about is emphasizing the lack of due process, the constitutional rights violations at play in this prosecution. So that is, of course, something that we added to the consideration. And I know that the president himself is fully aware of what these prosecutors and judges have been doing for more than four years.
But I think the most egregious violation is that judges systematically for three years, Charlie, as we discussed, denied every single change of venue motion filed by every J6 defendant arguing that they could still get a fair trial in a city most entirely populated by Democrats and not just Democrats, Trump loathing radical left-wing Democrats who view the events of January 6th as they do compare it to 9-11.
But I think the most egregious violation is that judges systematically for three years, Charlie, as we discussed, denied every single change of venue motion filed by every J6 defendant arguing that they could still get a fair trial in a city most entirely populated by Democrats and not just Democrats, Trump loathing radical left-wing Democrats who view the events of January 6th as they do compare it to 9-11.
I have sat in some of those jury selections. You cannot believe what the residents of Washington, D.C. think about January 6th. So the judges would claim, OK, well, we'll go through this Wadir process. We'll really, you know, drill down into their political views about Donald Trump and January 6th. No, they didn't. They didn't do that.
I have sat in some of those jury selections. You cannot believe what the residents of Washington, D.C. think about January 6th. So the judges would claim, OK, well, we'll go through this Wadir process. We'll really, you know, drill down into their political views about Donald Trump and January 6th. No, they didn't. They didn't do that.
And so it resulted in the DOJ having this perfect conviction rate after now almost three years of trials. So that right there is an indication that these J6ers did not have their constitutional rights of an impartial jury, going before an impartial jury.
And so it resulted in the DOJ having this perfect conviction rate after now almost three years of trials. So that right there is an indication that these J6ers did not have their constitutional rights of an impartial jury, going before an impartial jury.
And certainly the judges were a big part of that, but also withholding discovery, Brady materials, exculpatory evidence, concealing the use of not just FBI informants, but other undercover agents from numerous law enforcement agencies. So there were so many things just systematically happening there. That resulted in more than a thousand going to federal prison.
And certainly the judges were a big part of that, but also withholding discovery, Brady materials, exculpatory evidence, concealing the use of not just FBI informants, but other undercover agents from numerous law enforcement agencies. So there were so many things just systematically happening there. That resulted in more than a thousand going to federal prison.
So I know that that was part of your strong argument, not that we needed to. Again, the president was on board. But I think just developing the argument and the record for this extraordinary measure that he took yesterday.
So I know that that was part of your strong argument, not that we needed to. Again, the president was on board. But I think just developing the argument and the record for this extraordinary measure that he took yesterday.
Yes, absolutely.