Julie Kelly

Yes, absolutely.

Because to your point, the easy one, the low-hanging fruit, and I think what a lot of people thought was going to happen, and CNN and the Washington Post actually erroneously reported this a few hours before he issued that pardon, is, okay, we'll just dismiss the counts, pardon those who were convicted or accused of the four or five common misdemeanors, which is still hundreds of people.

Because to your point, the easy one, the low-hanging fruit, and I think what a lot of people thought was going to happen, and CNN and the Washington Post actually erroneously reported this a few hours before he issued that pardon, is, okay, we'll just dismiss the counts, pardon those who were convicted or accused of the four or five common misdemeanors, which is still hundreds of people.

And then we'll go case by case for the 300 or so with those federal, it's 111 charges, assault, interfering, impeding certain officers. So I think that's what everyone was sort of suggesting. And you know this, Charlie, pressure from Republicans in Congress. We had U.S.

And then we'll go case by case for the 300 or so with those federal, it's 111 charges, assault, interfering, impeding certain officers. So I think that's what everyone was sort of suggesting. And you know this, Charlie, pressure from Republicans in Congress. We had U.S.

senators very strongly come out during Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing, Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham, very unequivocally saying, There should not be pardons for anyone accused of assaulting police. So this was such a courageous decision by President Trump. I really want to emphasize that this was not an easy thing for him to do, but he did it because it's the right thing.

senators very strongly come out during Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing, Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham, very unequivocally saying, There should not be pardons for anyone accused of assaulting police. So this was such a courageous decision by President Trump. I really want to emphasize that this was not an easy thing for him to do, but he did it because it's the right thing.

And he feels personally passionate about restoring justice and making these people whole.

And he feels personally passionate about restoring justice and making these people whole.

So he issued pardons for not just the members, so Benny Thompson and Adam Kinzinger, of course, Liz Cheney, but the staffers. So this would be the investigators. I think they hired a dozen federal former prosecutors, Charlie, to interrogate 1,000-plus witnesses, mostly Trump White House employees.

So he issued pardons for not just the members, so Benny Thompson and Adam Kinzinger, of course, Liz Cheney, but the staffers. So this would be the investigators. I think they hired a dozen federal former prosecutors, Charlie, to interrogate 1,000-plus witnesses, mostly Trump White House employees.

They're all pardoned, but the real outrage, Charlie, is pardoning what I call the four J6 celebrity cops, Mike Fanone, Aquilina Ganel, Harry Dunn, and Daniel Hodges, who not only committed perjury under their sworn testimony during that first hearing in July of 2021, they have showed up as victims and witnesses in J6 hearings and trials and sentencing.

They're all pardoned, but the real outrage, Charlie, is pardoning what I call the four J6 celebrity cops, Mike Fanone, Aquilina Ganel, Harry Dunn, and Daniel Hodges, who not only committed perjury under their sworn testimony during that first hearing in July of 2021, they have showed up as victims and witnesses in J6 hearings and trials and sentencing.

begging judges to throw the book at Jay Sixers based on the lies about their injuries or what they saw or what they endured. All four of them committed perjury multiple times. And that is proven by the fact that Joe Biden has had to issue a pardon to exonerate them. They caused arguably more damage to Jay Sixers than Liz Cheney and that committee.

begging judges to throw the book at Jay Sixers based on the lies about their injuries or what they saw or what they endured. All four of them committed perjury multiple times. And that is proven by the fact that Joe Biden has had to issue a pardon to exonerate them. They caused arguably more damage to Jay Sixers than Liz Cheney and that committee.

Really a despicable move by Joe Biden on top of so many.

Really a despicable move by Joe Biden on top of so many.

There has not. And the criminal defense attorneys have said this to me. They've said it in court motions. There is nothing comparable. And I think one big indication is having that reversal, Charlie, of the 1512 C-2 count. John Strand can talk to that.

There has not. And the criminal defense attorneys have said this to me. They've said it in court motions. There is nothing comparable. And I think one big indication is having that reversal, Charlie, of the 1512 C-2 count. John Strand can talk to that.

That post-Enron obstruction that was overturned by the Supreme Court in June, saying that the DOJ wrongfully applied that statute in 300 plus cases. Nonetheless, the DOJ, DC U.S. Attorney Matthew Graves at the time, pushing forward with trying to make that charge stick, even after the Supreme Court overturned them. This was a rogue, reckless, destructive political persecution.