Julie Menanno

I think it's this whole, I don't know what you want to call it, maybe politics and this whole masculine feminine energy thing that's just like desperately trying to balance itself.

And the more out of balance it gets, the more you're going to see people

kind of going on to these more extreme edges.

Yeah, I think so.

And then that kind of circles back to, to me, a lot of it is, I think, a communication issue, you know, between the different sides.

I mean, everybody's sort of talking about their ideas and opinions about it, but we're missing the piece of people really kind of diving into themselves and understanding more about, like, why do I see it this way?

What are my fears around this?

You know, why...

Why is this so important to me outside of just kind of the surface level stuff?

And then nobody's when people are having a hard time kind of speaking from that place or at least adding it in.

you know, I don't want people to change necessarily their beliefs or values, but if we could start communicating in a way where we're feeling more heard and seen and understood and just instead of just calling, you know, being called a whatever, you know, radical feminist or red pillar or whatever, I think it would help, you know, kind of balance some of that out.

I mean, what I found with

working with couples extensively is when I can get the communication cleaned up, some of the symptoms just start, many of the symptoms just start to really resolve on their own.

Oh, beautiful.

I was going to say she words.

Well, I love that you were able to do that.

And she was able to join you in that too.

Yeah.

Okay.

Um, I mean, I think it's always really useful to know your attachment style.