Julieta Martinelli

You know, I'm actually kind of glad you brought that up because your relationship has so many different dynamics. There's the business relationship with Suave and then there's the friendship.

And when you're dealing with so many sort of like competing relationships, like if you got upset with a source for starting a show with somebody else and you're friends, so you have the comfort that you normally wouldn't have with a source, you might say things that you would not normally say.

And when you're dealing with so many sort of like competing relationships, like if you got upset with a source for starting a show with somebody else and you're friends, so you have the comfort that you normally wouldn't have with a source, you might say things that you would not normally say.

And when you're dealing with so many sort of like competing relationships, like if you got upset with a source for starting a show with somebody else and you're friends, so you have the comfort that you normally wouldn't have with a source, you might say things that you would not normally say.

I do acknowledge what you're saying, but in this conversation we just heard, you don't tell Suave, like, I'm not happy that you're telling your story in another podcast. You say, I was your best friend, and now you have another best friend. You call him bro. Like, that doesn't seem how you would say it to a regular source.

I do acknowledge what you're saying, but in this conversation we just heard, you don't tell Suave, like, I'm not happy that you're telling your story in another podcast. You say, I was your best friend, and now you have another best friend. You call him bro. Like, that doesn't seem how you would say it to a regular source.

I do acknowledge what you're saying, but in this conversation we just heard, you don't tell Suave, like, I'm not happy that you're telling your story in another podcast. You say, I was your best friend, and now you have another best friend. You call him bro. Like, that doesn't seem how you would say it to a regular source.

And over time, to be honest, it just feels like the relationship is not healthy anymore. And you guys have some very tough phone calls like this one.

And over time, to be honest, it just feels like the relationship is not healthy anymore. And you guys have some very tough phone calls like this one.

And over time, to be honest, it just feels like the relationship is not healthy anymore. And you guys have some very tough phone calls like this one.

Yeah, I remember.

Yeah, I remember.

Yeah, I remember.

At some point amid all of these arguments, there's a trip to Philly. And I sit there and record you to try and hash out what's been going on.

At some point amid all of these arguments, there's a trip to Philly. And I sit there and record you to try and hash out what's been going on.

At some point amid all of these arguments, there's a trip to Philly. And I sit there and record you to try and hash out what's been going on.

At this point, I notice that we're kind of losing Suave. He's sunk down in his chair. He's looking away from Maria. His body language is speaking very loud. I can see your face, so I'm gonna say something, okay? You know, I can see you shutting down in this conversation. And I'm wondering if it's things like that, that make you withdraw.

At this point, I notice that we're kind of losing Suave. He's sunk down in his chair. He's looking away from Maria. His body language is speaking very loud. I can see your face, so I'm gonna say something, okay? You know, I can see you shutting down in this conversation. And I'm wondering if it's things like that, that make you withdraw.

At this point, I notice that we're kind of losing Suave. He's sunk down in his chair. He's looking away from Maria. His body language is speaking very loud. I can see your face, so I'm gonna say something, okay? You know, I can see you shutting down in this conversation. And I'm wondering if it's things like that, that make you withdraw.

Because I can feel like the more that Maria is asking you why you're withdrawing, I can like physically see you pulling away from her on your chair and like not making eye contact and like, I'm wondering if that feels overbearing for you.