Julio Torres

Yeah.

There's a lot of depiction of violence in Catholicism.

Very bloody.

And...

The combination of that and the rigidity of an organized religion, which I would say is maybe blue.

Primary blue is the color of logic.

Math.

Right?

Things that you can't really, like, argue with.

Two plus two is four.

But then...

systems and bureaucracy are navy blue because there's darkness in there and by that i don't necessarily mean darkness in the good and evil sense i mean like unknowns yeah black is the color of unknown you say yeah i mean navy blue seems to be a big subject for you it's sort of the star of the show but like the villain of the show because you call it this the color that runs the world i would say it's the preoccupation of the show yeah neither the star nor the villain

Yeah, I mean, any bureaucratic system, I think, is navy blue.

You don't have to go that overreaching and complex as the immigration system to find navy blue.

I think that, like...

Zola, the wedding registry website, is navy blue.

Why is tech now?

You have to create a password to get married?

Right.

To invite Nana?