Jum Wallner

But I just thought it was, you know, pretty nice.

It was...

The advice for people I'd have for last visits, if you know it's going to be one, I suspect, is don't over-script it.

You know, it's really tempting to think of all the things you want to say, and I probably did that a bit.

And also I lied to John, which was bad, because...

By that time, I felt pretty confident, you know, the signs were there.

And I didn't think I'd see him again.

And he was on huge doses of painkillers.

And it was really, he wasn't well.

He was still at home, thank goodness.

And he was, you know, upset.

Of course he was.

He was dying.

And I said, but mate, you've done it.

You've done it.

You've done this thing.

And I didn't know if I was telling the truth or not, but I felt like I had to, I wanted him so much more.

to know that he'd succeeded, that I told him even though I didn't know myself.

By that time I was three quarters certain but I told him and he was happy about that and yeah, I told him how much he meant to me and what a great person he was and we chatted about other things and

It was pretty harrowing.