Justin Colby

And they think it is this like that there's no iterations of how to get there or what it will ultimately be.

Ellevest today may not be the same Ellevest in 10 years.

It just may not.

It might, but it might not.

There's iterations and people don't give themselves the opportunity to understand the iterations in business or in life.

And they don't give themselves enough grace to iterate.

They think they're failures if they have to change from this vision that they put out there, right?

That like, oh, it's going to be this thing.

And if they don't do it the exact way that they have in their head, they feel like they're failing or whatever the case is.

All of the successful people iterate.

I'm going to use Grant Cardone as an example.

What did you originally think of or hear of Grant Cardone?

What was he initially when he first?

Into sales.

Car dealers.

What do you think about Grant Cardone today?

Real estate guy.

Real estate guy.

Iteration.

He's done well along the way, but he has changed how it got him to where he is.