Justin Shum

And all of us are successful in different areas now.

So I don't think I have too much regrets.

This was actually not.

The second company was Ask Avenue, again, in the prop tech space.

Ask Avenue.

Avenue, okay.

And we had some of the largest enterprise customers at the time, Remax, Royal Page, another massive brokerage with 20,000 agents.

And we got a lot of press, won a pitch competition to kick it off.

But that one was angel-backed, actually.

And it was a

Completely different experience from bootstrapping where you own.

I own 51% of ReadyChat.

Ask Avenue slightly less.

But it's super important to note this, that taking on angels, they have to be the right angels.

The angels we took on were not experienced investing in tech.

And so they had different agendas, different strategies they were trying to enforce.

And so it got pretty messy, pretty ugly.

And I actually exited that one willingly and didn't make too much money off of it.

I just wanted to move on to new things.

Yeah, just different objectives.