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Well, but a different author. The Madness of Crowds is a different author. Anyway, it goes into like Tulip Mania, the 1600s, the witch burning and all of this. And I looked at it before, but then I picked it up again in 2020 because I looked at it before and thought what you said. oh, these are just, oh, that's what people used to be like. We've evolved though, right?

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But it's the beginning of 2020 when everybody was flipping out. And I was like, oh shit, we're exactly the same. We are not different. And that momentum, I could feel that momentum start then. I was like, oh man, this won't end until enough individuals decide this is over. And that's what the election, you know, earlier, you know, what was a month ago, that that's what that did.

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Well, I think, you know, I just did a post on my Substack about how one can be attacked by the enemy, the other side, like whatever you want to call it. If you have buttons, you can be hit. You can be attacked in your mind or through other people. And, you know, I think a lot of these people that went along with this momentum were just terrified. So I... That's part of the movements.

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I feel bad for them. But there's a way to get rid of those fears. And oftentimes they're irrational fears. So, you know, I give sort of a step by step if they want to go look at that sub stack post. It's just called spirit level. But, yeah, I feel bad for them for that. But there's a way out. You know, there's a way. And it's just anybody who's terrified can get swept up in something like that.

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Justine Bateman: Hollywood Is Dead. Wokeness & Generative AI Like Sora Are Just More Nails In Its Coffin. But Something New Is Rising From Its Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 434

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Uh, sure. Um, I go into a little bit in, in my book fame, you know, when I had, uh, uh, when somebody criticized me and I decided they were right and I was wrong. And then I had to examine like, why did I do that? What, what irrational fear did I have that served as an anchor point for that belief? You know what I mean? Because if I don't have that button, um, I'll give you an example.

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Justine Bateman: Hollywood Is Dead. Wokeness & Generative AI Like Sora Are Just More Nails In Its Coffin. But Something New Is Rising From Its Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 434

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Like if you're with a friend and they say, oh, we're going to meet my parents. And the mom says to your friend, like, oh, you're wearing that yellow jacket again. And then the parents go away. And then you guys, you and your friend go on to dinner. And then your friend says, can you believe my mother? And they're very upset. You believe what my mother said. You believe she brought up my jacket.

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And you're like, oh, I don't know. She just said, oh, you're wearing the yellow jacket. So it didn't hit you. You don't have that button about your mom talking about your clothes. But because your friend does, she has an irrational fear that is the anchor point for that. And so the enemy can attack your friend through the mom.

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And people see like the attacks are very similar as you go, as you carry on in life. You know, something your mom said to you is like very similar to what your first grade teacher said to you is very similar to what your boss said to you. And you're like, how can that be? How can they all know about that button? It's not possible. But the enemy knows about that button.

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Justine Bateman: Hollywood Is Dead. Wokeness & Generative AI Like Sora Are Just More Nails In Its Coffin. But Something New Is Rising From Its Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 434

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So I don't know if that sounds odd to some people, but if you think about it, even if you think about it that way, just as an experiment, it just makes things more clear.

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Justine Bateman: Hollywood Is Dead. Wokeness & Generative AI Like Sora Are Just More Nails In Its Coffin. But Something New Is Rising From Its Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 434

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Oh, this whole oppression over the last eight years has been very much, I was going to say 100%, I was going to say like 86% spiritual. I mean, it's definitely... I mean, people who are familiar with spiritual warfare will know what I'm talking about, but there's a spirit called Jezebel that shuts the mouths of prophets. In the Old Testament, she was the wife of one of the kings.

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Anyway, when you think about it, what prophets do is they— Anyway, they begin new things, right? With what they're saying, they open awareness, they begin new things. And so when you think about it, that that really is the spirit that would tamp down on anything new happening in a society, right?

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not just what profits are saying, but what, what new things, I mean, just look, like I said, just look at culture. I mean, we've had, why do you think like the whole film business is just reboots and rehashing like for a solid 15 years? There's some exceptions of course, but that when, when's the last time we had that? Like that's, that's unique. I feel like to the last 15, 20 years, um,

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Anyway, so I mean, I could say more about what you do with that spirit. But one of the things I said is like just enough individuals just said, OK, enough about that. Enough with this. I want to move on. I want something new. And so the momentum.

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Justine Bateman: Hollywood Is Dead. Wokeness & Generative AI Like Sora Are Just More Nails In Its Coffin. But Something New Is Rising From Its Ashes – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 434

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Oh, I don't know. I mean, this is just my take on religion. Religion can be good. It couldn't be sort of organizational for somebody. It can be organizational for them, not only in the way they're trying to get an idea of God, but also within the community. Some churches are great at taking care of those in the community and all this.

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But the trouble comes with, and this happens quite often, people trying to twist scripture and religion for their own end. And so that's where a lot of... You're back to the enemy again. Well, that's exactly what operates through that.

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There's actually one, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of Bibles that do this, but there's a Bible, if anyone's interested, called the Spirit-Filled Life Bible by Jack Hayford, who ran Church on the Way in Van Nuys, California. Anyway, it has definitions to all these words like sin. And you look at... That was the first one I looked up and I went, I went, are you kidding me?

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That means to miss the mark? Like in the Greek, I was like, are you joking? Like all this time, you know, anyway, it makes it, you know, certain church leaders have made certain words seem like sort of terrible indicators of how awful you are, which is not. what those words mean. So anyway, that's helpful.

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And the, the, that Bible version also has historical context for a lot of the, for all the books that were written and stuff. So that's really useful too. Anyway. So religion can be good for some. But the most important aspect of religion, if it's going to be useful, is to facilitate a relationship between an individual and God.

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And whatever they want, you know, if you can call it higher power or you're going to call it nature or the sun, whatever. It's so long as it's something that you believe or you're going to take the chance and believe that. completely cares about you, knows everything about you, will never leave you, will always give you wisdom, will always help you, and you're good to go.

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And oftentimes, and then I feel like then you're able to get rid of the buttons because then you're able to get rid of these irrational fears because you can swap an irrational fear for a belief that you're going to be okay. whatever that irrational fear is, it's usually about like, yeah.

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Yeah, and kind of rightly so. There were a lot of examples made of other people. So it was not for nothing. Like I said, that momentum necessary was there.

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Um, yeah, you just go to my sub stack, um, uh, uh, uh, kind of talk show, whatever. I don't know what to call it yet. You know, side-by-side video, just chatting with people. And also I'll be showing my two new films, uh, um, feel and look, um, after they premiered the, at the film festival, though, those will show on my, uh, sub stack exclusively.

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Well, to me, generative AI is one of the worst ideas we've ever had in the sense that it will be used primarily by people who are looking to eliminate contact with employment of the care of other people. It doesn't make, I just, you know, about entertainment in particular, it doesn't make better films.

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It's not being used in the film business because, you know, it will, you know, usher in a whole new wave of incredible films that will change our lives. No. It's being used in the entertainment business because it's cheaper and faster than using people, period. And the insulting aspect of it and the criminal aspect of it really is that it is completely based on other people's work.

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No, it's like a blender. It can't function out being fed. If you want it to spit out a novel, but all you fed it or films, it's, it doesn't know what you're talking about. So you've got to feed it in millions of, of, of books. And then you,

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You know, if you say I want a book about, you know, pandas that ride motorcycles, so long as you fed in books about motorcycles and books about pandas and, you know, anything else, it can spit out a Frankenstein spoonful of it. So that's what's truly offensive about it. It's not some new tech. It is like that AI thing you were going to read me.

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That's simply an algorithm that's gone in and summarized a bunch of stuff that human beings have said about fill in the blank.

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Look, it's not... The people who are saying that it's a tool, they don't understand human nature at all. And they don't understand greed at all. So it's like, you want to bring AI, generative AI into the film business. It's like putting a bag of money in the corner and going, don't worry, nobody's going to touch it.

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The CEOs, the heads of studios, the streaming companies, I mean, they were never in the film business anyway. It was, you know, they're in the tech business. Of course, they're all going to use it. Why wouldn't they? It's just naive to imagine that it will be kept in its place or something. And the thing I dislike most about it is it disrespects, degradates, Being a human.

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Sure, there's a lot of people that don't see it that way. But I'm not sounding the alarm. I'm not trying to stop it. I'm trying to make clear to people that what's happening right now and what will continue to happen, the only way these AI companies can get you to subscribe to to subscribe to their services, right? ChatGPT and the rest, the paid services, is to convince you you can't do it.

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And when you convince people they can't do it, and then you have AI, and I talked about this like over a year ago, being used in insurance companies to deny claims. I talked about that a year ago. And you have, not to, I'm not saying that to justify what that, you know, murder did. But you have that happening. You have people losing their jobs over it.

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You have infecting schools, which I think is absolute child abuse. We're going to have the dumbest collection of adults in about 15 years that have ever walked the earth.

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Because not only will they not know how to write for themselves or do any of these other things that we value in society now, they also won't know how to like make butter and chop wood and all the things that people knew how to do in the dark ages. So I don't think general AI should be nowhere near a school or education.

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And it dismisses and also lets people off the hook to actually develop themselves and to work. Anything new is going to come out of people. And look back at all of history, all of history, all of it, everything we know. has come, you know, innovations and ideas and art and music has come through people, hasn't come through an algorithm. And that's not going to change.

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And what this will do, it proliferates enough. You won't see this whole kind of the spiritual pressing down that proliferated because of the cancel, you know, the mob mentality momentum. That will increase. But the good news is that there are people like myself, filmmakers who are dedicated to the future of filmmaking. And that's the Credo 23 Film Festival. No AI is allowed.

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And also all the proceeds... after costs go to the filmmakers. But we're making a tunnel through this sort of inferno. And as much as I'm saying this is a bad idea, if you use it, you'll never know what you can do. You're just stopping yourself right there. You'll never know what you can do as far as research on your own. You'll never know what you can do as a writer.

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You'll never know what you can do as a filmmaker. Anything, fill in the blank, anything. You'll never find out what you can do. And you'll never have those new ideas coming through you out into society. But as much as I'm saying this, I'm not trying to stop it. I'm just going to point at people while they're doing it. You know, these CEOs that are making this happen. These maniacs, Sam Altman.

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And listen how they talk. When you hear how they talk, they are saying this is spiritual. This is this. And when you think about it, they're trying to create a type of antichrist. And go with me for a second on this. They're promising always be with you, right? You have like AI. You don't even have to experience grief.

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You can feed your dead relatives photos and videos and voice into an app, and you can have mom who died last year talking to you every day on an app, right? Always with you, always there for you, can always give you wisdom. It's not really wisdom. It's just rehashed idea, you know, Wikipedia entries and Reddit posts all chopped up together and refed to you. It can love you.

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I mean, go read Marc Andreessen's, like, this is how AI is going to save the world. Every single category he talks about is like a, it's like a plot to a horror movie, including Megan. That's in there. You know, it'll take care of your kid and love your kid and, you know, help them with their homework and all of this. It really is. Go check it out.

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Anyway, so. But I. Bad idea. But at the same time, and this is where people's cognitive dissonance, you know, increases on me. It's being, there are a lot of structures in our society now in education, in politics, in entertainment, where the people that were in charge of these structures did not allow any growth or movement. And again, look at the 20th century.

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We had growth and movement every single decade, right? It was, it occurred, it moved, changed, right? Well, the last- Right. 15, 20 years, we haven't had that, right?

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The answer we can see was, well, then we have to break them. So Donald Trump is being utilized, big picture, right? Being utilized to break that structure. And new things will come through it in politics. Generative AI is being used to break that. the entertainment business and new things will emerge through it.

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What is going to emerge because the entertainment structure is being broke, entertainment business structure is being broken, is going to be a new genre, something that has been delayed for 20 years. And I'm so excited for it. Like my whole reason I was- is for this thing that's emerging now on the other side.

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Yeah, in a different way. This has to do with the breaking of structures so that new things can pop up. And certainly that pressing down that we had over the last eight years was... very helpful to keep that structure pressed down and keep everything the same, everything the same.

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Also making people feel like whoever's got their own personal brand or whatever, the influencers or whatever, the idea that they need to stay the same because you have advertisers where it's a lot easier to sell to people if they stay the same. Anyway, not to go off on a tangent, but a lot of people invested in maintaining a particular brand, which is not how we're supposed to function.

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So the, so the pressing down was, was just used. I mean, the way that was able to come in and press down on us was that we had, we had a lot of fear and we had, and Drew, maybe you've come across this. We had this, suddenly we had this worship of victimhood and that really gave a lot to all of this.

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Because, you know, in the past and now going forward... you'll have a, Oh, what's this quote here? Will you read it to me? I can't see it.

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Think about it. If... I mean, the fact that everybody made victimhood, it was like in the past and now going forward, if you've got something going on that's blocking you from really being yourself from, and that's the goal, right? I mean, everything I'm saying, the relationship with God, the whole thing, the whole goal is to become the most yourself as possible.

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Because when you do that, you get rid of the fears that keep you from that. Then, man, we all benefit. You're living a full life and everybody benefits from whatever is now freely flowing through you because. That's right. Okay.

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So in the past, if you had something that was blocking you from that or now going forward, you would go to a therapist or 12 Steps or whatever works for you and you would get at the root reasons and get rid of it.

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Well, what happened with this whole woke thing, the way that started, is people started, and I would have to give some thought on exactly how the, I did a post on the Victim Olympics, but how exactly the championing the victim, like making that aspirational, Making that aspiration.

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And I think it has to do, just off the top of my head now, I think it has to do with seeing people getting attention for truly having Asperger's or truly, yeah, it was the whole Me Too thing, right? It was that. And that's what I write about in that.

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That's why I wrote, this is how the Me Too movement became the Me, Me, Me, Me Too moment. And that was people seeing attention being paid to other people that had had these very unfortunate situations. And then wanting to participate in the conversation, but not being able to. And if you're prone to feeling left out, this moment in history is going to be the worst moment you could have been in.

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Because it's so very easy to feel left out. All you have to do is open X or Facebook or whatever. And you're like, I can't, I don't qualify for the trending hashtag. You know, how do I be a part of this? Then they started widening, they started lowering the bar for qualifying for that. And then you had, and then you had people, that's it.

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And then you had people wanting to hold onto that as if it was a badge on a Girl Scout sash. You know, I have this invisible disability and this and I was this and I was this and I was this and not wanting to fix it, not wanting to go to therapy or 12-step program or anything or get at the root of it because they're getting attention because of these things. illnesses, if you will.

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I mean, it was truly Munchausen syndrome for a lot of people. And they felt that they got more attention and were more important by holding onto these things than they would be if they let go of them. That's how it seemed to me.

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Maybe. I mean, it was... It could be. And it goes into what it was like, the life cycle of fame, you know, from beginning equilibrium and then the without when it goes away, you know, so I experienced the full life cycle. And some people like Brad Pitt, you know, you go to equilibrium and he'll die at the equilibrium. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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And then how people democratize the seeking of fame. And they started quantifying people's value instead of qualifying it, you know, instead of qualifying it by saying, oh, this person's a beautiful violinist and they do good for others or I don't know, however they're qualifying it. And they start quantifying it by saying, oh, you have X number of followers or retweets or whatever.

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Well, when you think about it, you used to just be who was going to know about you if you were doing anything? I mean, unless you were on national television or in a movie or in a political arena, how would anyone know if you're in Boise, Idaho or wherever? Like, how is anyone going to know whatever you're doing? It's social media, really. Completely change that.

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You can be anybody, anywhere, and suddenly you're a huge hit doing something. Maybe it is of great value, and maybe it's great because, oh, we found you, and otherwise we wouldn't have known about you over there in Boise, Idaho. But for a lot of people, it's just...

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I think they almost divest themselves of the seeking of their true gifts and talents in favor of the possibility of becoming famous, if only for a day, by tweeting something that got everybody angry or something. And I think that's a shame only because...

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we then don't get to find out, if they're spending so much energy doing that, then we don't get to find out what their true skills and talents are. And as a society, we miss out.

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Go ahead. My camera is stable. I am at eye level. I have, you know, I have lighting on myself. Yeah. I don't want to get, I don't want to have to critique myself.

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Or backlit. Think it through. Look at your frame before you start recording. It's easy enough to turn yourself around so the window is behind your camera and the light is on you, right?

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And think about it. They are looking at themselves while they record it. So it's not that they're aware. And then they are posting it. So they looked at it before they posted it. I mean, there's just, I don't know where to start. You can see what you're doing.

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Yeah, but new things. I'm saying, like, yeah, you're going to see a lot of, you know, discomfort and destruction here, but awesome things. Like, I've just made two films that are of that flavor, of the new, this new genre. And these are the kinds of films we're trying to pick for the Credo 23 Film Festival as well.

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You know, no AI, and also, like, we're looking for, like, kind of fresh looks at things. Because the shame of it is that a lot of, you know, we don't have a lot of new filmmakers doing new things because they look at sort of the landscape, the professional landscape, like what kinds of things are they going to be hired to do?

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And a lot of the new films you'll see look like auditions in order to get, in order to direct content, which is not filmmaking. And I really encourage if there are any filmmakers listening to this, like do what you know you're supposed to do.

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Otherwise you won't be on your path and none of us will be able, you know, something is supposed to come through you and you're going to be eliminating the possibility of us enjoying that. You've got to do what you know you're supposed to do. And, Don't worry. You'll be able to make a living. If you're on your right path, you'll be able to make a living. Don't be afraid.

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Oh. Well, you know, I'm a filmmaker, and so I get curious about particular pieces of work that people are posting online. Because when you post online, you are distributing it internationally. So there's a crying genre that has been posted online for about six years or so. So after the election, I noticed there it is again.

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But Drew, there's an interesting thing there. So, yes, what you just said also ties into, you know, in biblical times, in New Testament, you know, the Pharisees were like not wanting, you know, because everything Jesus was saying took away their professional positions, right? Yes. So what we have here is ties into some of the stuff you're bringing up about fame. It ties into like, God damn it.

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I want to be famous. God damn it. I want to shine. I want to be out there. I want to I want people to notice me. What if I'm just invisible? What if I'm just nothing in Boise, Idaho? Nobody's ever going to see anything that I ever do. What if I don't matter? And then seeing that there are some people that, I mean, this is just how it is. There's nothing you can do about it.

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There's some people that are gifted at organizing. There are people that are gifted at filmmaking. There are people that are gifted at music. And if you're not, it can be very frustrating because that looks like a very easy way to become famous. But like you said, it's just a byproduct of you actually doing your skill or talent.

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And so a lot of these people, it was it was a very special in L.A., a very heavy like hall monitor presence. Debbie Downer, hall monitor, party pooper. You know, well, if I'm not going to let you I don't I want everybody who's going to have a party. Just shut up. You can't do it. And I'm going to call you out if you do it. Nobody can make anything new.

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Oh, that comedy, that is insulting to this type of people and that type of people and that type of people and that type of people. And it's offensive and it's ableist and it's this and it's that. And it's like, and they had the momentum to shut people up. So I feel like it was not, you're going to ruin my current position. Like it was Spanish Inquisition or the Pharisees.

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I see an opportunity to shine beyond you. And I want to take that action. And the only way I can succeed is if I make sure I shut all of you up. I can't make this happen unless I do. And that's what we had for eight years.

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People want to, my film Violet is kind of a map to, if you're someone who makes fear-based decisions and don't want to do that anymore, it's sort of a map. It stars Olivia Munn and Justin Theroux. It's a map to go from a fear-based decision life to a instinct-based decision life.

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And I thought, wow, you either were crying really hard and the thought entered your mind that, you know, I got to get my phone, I've got to record this. And then you edited it and then you posted it. Or you thought maybe what I do next on my account is not an unboxing video, but a crying video. And then you set the camera up and then one way or the other, this is how you set it up.

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um right also there's a if if if i got filmmakers in here or artists or anything there's a tarkovsky book um andre tarkovsky the director um and i'm just looking up uh something in time if you guys um uh architect of time no maybe you guys can look it up but caleb's really good at it caleb you see a tarkovsky something of time

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um that's a fantastic book to be reading about the it really captures like this new creative era we're going right now time within time diaries no andre tarkovsky the director um yeah that's the name of one of his books let me see if i can find the other one i'm trying to look it up sculpting in time Yes, thanks. Sculpting in Time.

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Hey, if anybody, the Credo 23 Film Festival is the end of March. If anybody wants to come, we have badges on sale, and it's going to be fun. It's in one place, so we're not all spread out. We'll all be together for the two and a half days here in Hollywood at the beautiful American Legion Hall Post 43, which is by the Hollywood Bowl.

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And then I thought, you know, we're many, many years into the creator economy. And yet the videos still look, still have poor production value. So I thought, well, why don't I just... talk about the production value of these videos. And yeah, it's a social media video critique. And over on my Substack, I've done over like 125 now, I guess. So they're all indexed over there.

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If there's one that you loved and you want to show a friend and you can't find it, go to that index and you can find it.

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You know, society, there's been a pressing down on society for acutely the last four years. And I first noticed it start like eight years ago, where people aren't allowed to say anything. I know you've spoken about this a lot, but people weren't permitted to say anything about They weren't, and there was very little innovation.

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I mean, you know, someone like Elon Musk got a few things out there, you know, it was kind of a miracle. But a lot of things just, when you look at the culture, when you look at every era, every decade in the 20th century, you see new things came up, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s. And around, I don't know, 2004, 2005, it just kind of sort of stopped. You know, tech was center stage.

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It's been center stage for way too long. And the Internet kind of flattened time, too. And we just and then you have this this mob mentality momentum, which allowed this cancel culture that's done now. Thank God. And you had not much new things emerge during that time. And one of the things that was tamped down was satire and comedy.

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And when you tamp down something like that, you know, society is a balance. It's like any sort of area in nature. Everything that's in that area is, is important. And you find out the hard way that something was important when you eliminate it.

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Like if you eliminate a certain insect area, then you have a vine that's growing out of control and choking the trees because that vine was primary food source for the, for the insect. And so satire and comedy are like that. They sort of hedge in, they hem in rather a society of, And that was not around.

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So there's many other things that were missing that made our society kind of go like berserker for a little while there. But I think people are hungry for it because they realize it's a necessary nutrient of society, hungry for satire.

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You tell me what you know of it. No, honestly, you tell me what you know of it. I don't need to hear any AI crap out there.

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That's true. In what I read about that, it gave a good example. It said that If somebody is not very smart, they'll walk into a room with 10 people and they'll assume that they're one of the smartest people in there. Someone who is very smart walks into the room and is not quite sure where they sit in, you know, because they know, like you're saying, they know how much they don't know.

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Well, yeah. I mean, I think basically you just have a lot of, it really just, it's fear. You know, you have a lot of people who are just, they're terrified that they don't matter. They're terrified that, you know, of getting another call from mom and dad asking them when they're going to get married or have kids or get a career or get a job.

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And I think becoming, becoming an activist of, I mean, me, I think like activists are, are, you know, Martin Luther King and people like that. I think everyone else is like, maybe you're just voicing your opinion about something really. Like I'm not one, you know, I mean, anytime somebody tries to put that on me, I'm like, no, that's not.

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So, but if you, if you've called yourself an activist because you're posting certain things on social media or you have, you start to feel, you have a sense of identity and accomplishment and you're calling, quote, calling people out. And I mean, the first, if you're going to succeed at that, the first thing you have to do is get rid of the comedy. So I think it was very specific.

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It was the revenge of the hall monitors. It was the... The party poopers, the people who don't get invited anywhere. And finally, they could exact their revenge, really. But bottom line is they don't feel any worth themselves. They don't feel like they matter themselves.

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And hopefully now that this mob mentality momentum is over, which is necessary in order to do that job of the sort of armchair activist where you're calling people out. I hope that these people now can see can see their value without that drug. It's it's sort of like an addict, you know, so you are an alcoholic. You've just taken the alcohol away from all of these people.

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So I like that frame. I like that frame. It's often more... I would say comfortable, I don't know, if the alcoholic has hit their bottom rather than the alcohol just being removed. So a lot of these people are going to have a hard time adjusting now to how to be themselves, having to see what they are, having to find. But I agree with you.

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There's a great book. I can't remember the title right now, Drew, but I'll email it to you or something. Yeah. Oh, I've talked about it before. It's about mobs, and it was written in the 1800s, and I pulled it out during 2020 because I'd read it before.

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Um, I, I think this is great. It was, um, long overdue. Um, uh, Yeah, just that mob mentality momentum that's necessary to maintain an atmosphere where your job can be destroyed, your social standing can be destroyed, your children's lives at their school can be destroyed. That momentum ended with the...

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like the very large national poll of what people want, which is our national presidential election, kind of set the stage for that being over. And that's the kind of momentum you need for things like the, if people remember the McCarthy trials, the HUAC trials, the blacklisting, in the 50s, the witch burning of the 1600s, even things like tulip mania, also the 1600s.

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If you don't have that momentum, you can't, you don't have the structure you need to ruin people's lives. So that's over.

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I think it started with the me too movement. Um, and I didn't essay on this on my sub stack where me too, I think if you're somebody who's prone to feel left out, this is the worst era for you to be in because you know, if you're left out in, in prior eras, You would know if you were left out in your small group, your town, maybe your work environment, your school.

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But now it's like, you know, if you're left out of the entire world because what you posted on social media didn't get any likes or you're not part of the hashtag. And so you can look on, see the trending topics and you can see that you are not part of it.

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And I think that was true for a lot of women when they saw the Me Too hashtag trending and all these women in the very unfortunate and not enviable situation of having been victims of criminal sexual assault. but it was a big topic. And I think a lot of women felt left out. And then they started kind of lowering the bar to what qualifies for that.

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And it became sort of the me, me, me, me, me too movement. And also we started glorifying, there was a lot of attention on people who have PTSD or maybe from having been a victim of sexual assault or other reasons. And there was focus on that too. And so people want to be part of that as well.

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They wanted to, you know, they kind of scrambled within themselves to see like, well, can't I qualify somehow? Don't I have some sort of trauma somehow? And then they started wearing it on their, like almost on a Girl Scout stash, you know, little badges. And you could see it on their profiles. I'm a this, I'm a that. You know, and they started sort of highlighting all the ways that they were

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They could qualify for invisible disabilities or me, me, me, me too. And then it became a sacred cow. I think it's that Megan, like as soon as something becomes a sacred cow, you're screwed. You know, and then it became like, oh, you can't touch that. You can't touch anything to do with sexual assault. You can't touch anything to do with you can't question anybody. You can't look at the animals.

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I saw a video of somebody putting a Great Dane. on an airplane. That's their emotional support dog. Yes, it's so ridiculous. And people are afraid to push back because it was so easy on social media. There was that momentum, right? It was so easy on social media to destroy your career, get you fired. And for anyone who says that's not true, you're either kidding yourself or you're

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You're just kidding yourself. It's childish to say that that wasn't true. I know people for whom that's true. So it absolutely happened.

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Yeah, but for those people who were taking advantage of it, that was always true. So imagine, where were those people before they decided they were going to join these hashtags, even though they didn't qualify? What was going on in their lives? What kind of people were they? And I would hazard a guess that they were lost. They didn't know what they were going to do with their lives.

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They felt like they were of no consequence. They felt like they were not important. They felt like nobody was going to listen to them about anything. And maybe they were people who had not looked within themselves at their own basket of skills and talents that I believe every single person is born with, and they haven't bothered to develop any of those. So...

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you take these people and this attention that they got through lowering the bar to qualify for these hashtags, um, they were able to use it almost like a drug. So now you have a bunch of addicts, if you will, and their drug has been removed from them. So they are flailing there. And now you see them grabbing onto things like, um, yeah, let's go after all these other CEOs. And I'm like, okay.

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Talk about absurd. Like it's becoming even more absurd because just like a junkie, you take away their drug or an alcoholic or an anorexic or a compulsive overeater, like you name it, a workaholic, a sexaholic, anything. You take the drug away from them before they've hit bottom. And there's going to be you're going to have something that's beyond a panic attack.

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And that's what a lot of people are experiencing now, because what it means is they will have to go back, pick up where they left off before they hitch their wagon to these hashtags. They're going to have to go back there. I think it's a great opportunity for them. They're going to have to go back to that point where they left off and start developing their own basket of skills and talents.

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And I think if they do that and put in that work, they will see that they do have value. They do have, they do have a skillset that is a value in society. So I'm excited for them, but it's, it's, It's going to be uncomfortable for them right now.

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Well, I think you're seeing a lot of cognitive dissonance with... With him and also this teenage girl who did this shooting recently, I forget, in Wisconsin. Is that right? Yeah. And so cognitive dissonance is interesting. It's, you know, where you can't hold two ideas, two different ideas in your head at the same time.

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So people are going, oh, well, somebody murdered somebody and oh, he's well off. Oh, and he's educated. And there's nothing in his social media that seems to indicate that he's insane or holds ideas that are in opposition of their positions. And do you see like he doesn't fit into the category that they expect? Or that anybody really expects. Who expects that?

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And this school shooter, aren't we used to the school shooters being, I don't know, radicalized young men? Or maybe I'm speaking that incorrectly. I mean, isn't that usually that? No, no, it's 19 to 26-year-old men. But now you have a young woman, teenager, who's railing against misogyny. You see, so these two kill, it's an interesting timing for them. They're both murderers. That's it.

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A murderer. They're both murderers. Neither one of them doing it out of self-defense. So in society, as far as I'm concerned, that is abhorrent and not to be, it's unacceptable in our society. You can't have a society, a cohesive society, if that kind of thing is acceptable, obviously.

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But I think, yeah, what I said, I think there's a lot of cognitive dissonance for many, many people that these two killers are the types of people that they are.

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Yeah, and be interesting to see where that started. I really liked doing the Pledge of Allegiance when I was a kid. I'm sorry to hear that that's, I know that's not been a part of the regular school mornings for a while now, and that's too bad. I'm not opposed to religion not being in schools, or you said, you didn't say schools, you said the town square. It's the public square. You know-

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It's interesting, spirituality, the decline, you know, when you look, there's a chart, right? The decline is really sharp, the fall off. I don't know when the sort of steep descent begins, but maybe, Megan, it has to do with the kind of flattening of culture that the internet, you know, public-facing internet introduced. And look, there's a lot of great things about the internet.

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And one of the consequences though was a flattening of culture, a flattening of time too. Like imagine some interview that I did in 1987 You could find in a magazine, a 1987 issue of a magazine, and it's in context. You see other people that were, you know, popular enough at the time to be interviewed. You see ads from that time, news that was happening at that time, whatever.

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But now you see an interview of me from 1987 online. There's no context. It's as if I said it yesterday or, you know, oftentimes these interviews and articles don't have any dates on them at all. So there's that aspect of it as far as news, as far as what is happening. And then you also have just this almost a monoculture of,

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of everybody knowing what everybody's doing all at once, you no longer had these pockets sort of, not an incubator, but an area in which, and a time and a space where something could develop and then emerge. You remember when we were kids, something, If you were living in L.A., there would be like some fashion like bell bottoms or something like this.

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And then you go visit your cousins in Wisconsin or Utah or something. And and they're like, what are you wearing? And then three or four years later, that would be a trend there. So all of that went away with the Internet because everything's so immediate. So.

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Okay. Yeah, I didn't mean to cut you off. I just mean that song is like absolutely bizarre to me.

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Well, yeah, part of it. But think of it. I think of it this way. You had, when you were interacting with your peers before the internet, you had real world consequences. You found out that behaving in a particular way got you uninvited to the next party. You were shunned in certain, and then, but there's opportunity to like earn your way back into a group or something, right?

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I mean, it was sort of, it was more tribal like that, right? But then when the internet was introduced, social media, you could actually get attention, which is not the same thing as approval. You could get attention online for behavior and also couple that with, and this preceded the internet and social media by a bit, reality shows. Yeah.

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So I always think back to the first reality show that I recall, which was Real World on MTV. And there was a guy on there named Puck. And Puck was... Puck misbehaved. I mean, as you can... That's his name. So... I remember. There's a Shakespearean play with Puck in it. Yeah. Yeah. Is it a little... What is it? Midsummer Night's Dream? What is it? Midsummer Night's Dream. Yeah.

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A Little Mischief Maker. So he was a real pain in the ass. And... And then but the people were so enthralled with the idea that somebody was behaving like that and and nothing was really happening to him. And so that became a trend in social and on reality shows. You know, the worst behavior got rewarded with attention and money and whatever else. So I think people saw these two things.

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And then that sort of tribal consequence of being a poor addition to a party or something was diluted. I think that has something to do with it.

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Yeah. I mean, when you're younger, you look around, you're like, you're new to society, especially as a little kid, right? What do people value? There's a sociologist named Rene Girard who has this theory called mimetic desire. His theory is that nobody wants anything when they're born except the core need and desire to survive.

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When they look around and they see what other people are desiring who have been here longer, and then they just sort of mimic their desire. They go, oh, everybody wants that car. Okay, then I want to want it too, you know, because how else are you going to... You look around at the society that exists to see how you can...

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to see what's valued in order to not only fit in, but to, to be a value in that society as well. And that is, and then that does come back to somebody's sense of surviving. Right. So it's a shame little kids, then they look at, they look at, they looked at that, um, uh, reality, that poor reality show behavior. They look at how people behave online. They look at, um,

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I mean, even Trump's behavior, you know, he looked at it objectively in 2016, changed the way he was criticizing people, you know, that I was not in favor of, frankly, but that changed political behavior. Do you notice? After that, it not only changed political behavior, I mean, how many people, how many politicians had online accounts at that point?

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Had Twitter accounts, you know, when it was Twitter or Facebook accounts or anything. And after that, and not only did it change political behavior, but it... The 24-hour news cycle, always needing a talking head, all the podcasts that need guests, all of this, needing people to be online. There's an endless amount of air that needs to be filled with people's presence.

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And then the bad behavior being kind of awarded. I think it has attracted a certain type of politician now. Remember when we first saw C-SPAN in the... early 80s or whatever it was. And we look at this and go, you know, the first time we saw like what, you know, on TV, like what was going on in the House or the Senate. And we just went, oh, my God, it's so boring. Like, how do they stay awake?

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These people are so dull. What they have to do all day is so dull. And that's not the case anymore. And I think it's attracted people. I think we should bring back the boring politicians like who just they're doing their job. You know? It's too late for that. I know. But it's this type that wants to be on camera all the time, you know? And it's on both sides of the whatever aisle.

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Yeah, could be. Um, I think though there, you know, as far as like people, um, people ascribing to poor behavior, generally speaking, and I don't mean this to be about politics. I was just saying like that introduced back then a whole type of political behavior on social media.

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There's interesting, just like reality shows and visible likes and retweets and follower numbers affected the general public. But I think there's a swing away from that now, like a big swing away from that. Not only does it become, it's not shocking anymore. It's people become weary of it. You know, it becomes tiresome. It becomes repetitive, you know, sort of bad behavior.

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And I think people are really wanting now something real and genuine. and loving frankly and not in a in a patronizing way just like in a real way because we're all like at our core as humans we we we hunger for that which makes me feel like you know we might see a turn to more spirituality now and it doesn't have to be I don't think, I know it doesn't have to be within a religion at all.

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Religion can be a framework for somebody's journey to having a relationship with God and whatever you want to, whatever name you want to give my, he doesn't give a shit, you know? Right. But so long as it's, you know, so long as what you're imagining is someone who knows everything about you,

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cares about every scintilla of you, will give you, never leave your side, will give you wisdom at all times, and is going to have you make, is gonna guide you to go in particular directions that might be very uncomfortable, but you will see that it is all to have you become more and more and more and more yourself.

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That's the goal, to have this relationship with God and become, and I'm not talking about religion. If anyone has a bad view of that, who rubs them the wrong way, that word, redefine it for yourself. Or use some other word. Call him Bob. I mean, he just doesn't care. Yeah.

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But I think because listen, when you've got something like bringing it all the way around, when you've got something like AI, generative AI, that is so good at imitating, I'll tell you the reason it's so good at imitating what we see in our lives is because it's taken everything we've done in our lives up to now and

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Put it in a blender and then you put in a prompt and you have this Frankenstein spoonful and it spits it out to you. How could it do that? It's not pulling it out of the air. It's pulling all the films that have ever been done, all the series that have ever been done, all the talk shows that have ever been done, the books that have ever been written, and all of this. It's wholesale theft, 100%.

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But you've got these different applications that reproduce And we look at it and we think it's real. Or we look at these, you know, the way the media treated the whole COVID thing, the fear mongering, which I think was unforgivable, unforgivable. Same. And they'll do it again. It'll be done again. It'll be that kind of fear-mongering will happen again because it's happened repeatedly in history.

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Anyway, you've got all these things that are... We used to be able to just rely on what our eyes saw. We used to be able to rely on... Well, or we assumed we could rely on what the media was telling us. It seemed more even-keeled, right? We're just getting the... Or the FBI. Right? But if you don't have those things, and I don't know that they'll return or...

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our ability to depend on these things as being real. I don't know that that will return. So that being true then, what are you going to rely on to guide you? Are you going to look around at other people? Are you going to look around at what's trending on social media and go, well, that must be the direction? Are you going to go by a video that you see? Well, I don't know.

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That could be generative AI. Maybe that's not real. Are you going to go by what the media says? Well, I don't know. What's their agenda? If you, you've got to get some kind of foundation spiritually, however, you're going to pull that together. Again, I'm not talking about religion. I'm just saying it's available and it will give you a sense of, it will give you a true North.

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That's what I'm saying. It'll give you a sense of direction that is not dependent at all on all those other elements I just said, because you cannot trust them. And I just encourage people to develop their own discernment, which is inherent, right? Your own discernment and your own instincts. And this is not a right or left. I mean, honestly, I think I'm not into politics at all.

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I'm into people divesting themselves of their fears, most of them irrational in my experience, so that they can truly become themselves completely. And if you couple that with a relationship, a spiritual relationship, you're going to be so much happier. You're going to have focus in your life. And you're going to be able to discern whether or not something is bullshit.

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Oh, that one. Oh, geez, I'd have to bring up my critique to really do it justice. But I think in that critique, I went into... Gosh, if somebody could bring it up, that'd be... I've got it. I have it here. Okay, then you read it. You read it. This piece introduces... Many questions. You should pull up one of the ones that that where they were crying and like having a like a fucking fit anyway.

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This is brilliant. So well done. What gave you the idea? Well, the ones that were right after the election were absolutely... I mean, the level of emotion that was released, it was... My first thought when I looked at them was, man, we've had this crying genre in... you know, kind of online post for like six years. And as a filmmaker, I always wonder, were you crying really hard?

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I mean, something was really upsetting to you and not just about the election, but I mean, this is happening prior. You were crying really hard about something that truly upset you. And then the thought entered your head that, oh, I've got to find my phone. Where's my phone? I've got to record this. And then you held the phone. I put my tears on camera. I've got to record myself crying.

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And then you recorded yourself. Maybe you did a couple of takes. And then you watched it back. And then you edited it. And then you decided that it should be distributed internationally and you posted it online. Or were you wondering what to post next on your social media account? Should it be an unboxing video? Should it be a visit to your doctor's office?

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You know, what are you going to do to keep the audience there? And you go, I know I'll do a crying video. And you post it and you set your... your phone up or your camera and then made yourself cry. It had to have gone one way or the other. And then I thought, my second thought was, my God, we are so many years into this creator economy and still the quality looks this shitty.

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How is that possible? It's never been easier. That's why I mentioned that, you know, you could... The creator economy has made so... Has created an entire cottage industry on equipment. Lighting, tripod stands. I mean, everything. Yeah. You don't have to live like this, Susan. There's no excuse. Whatever her name was. So then I thought, well, I'll just...

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Tell them, you know, I'll just do a serious film review of these items that have been distributed internationally. Here they are.

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Some. Yeah, some of it is forced. Some of it's forced and maybe it's the second or third take. And then, you know, the director of this piece should be aware if they're tiring, emotionally tiring the actress with too many takes. And but it's better to read them. Actually, if people go to my sub stack.

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which is justinbateman substack.com um there's an index there of i've done all over a hundred of them um so they can go down you go all the way down to the bottom even and see the first ones there was one with a woman who was standing next to this man very close

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as if her one arm is behind him and she's looking at him as he's talking and she's nodding her head to camera and then she's looking back and nodding. And it really looked like she's a ventriloquist and this is her dummy, the guy standing next to her. So there's a whole piece on that. Anyway, it's, yeah, it's satire. Absolutely. It's a great way to comment on

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I don't remember a time in my career where, where there was an absence of criticism of me, um, So, or if anybody, I mean, I'm not, there's nothing unique about me in that sense. I go into detail in my book, Fame, right? We talked about that years ago. You just didn't hear it as often when, because of the effort it took to write a letter to somebody, you know, back before the internet.

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So I've always been, there's always been somebody at least one person. And I say that sarcastically, like more than one person who's got a problem with me is something about my presence pushes their buttons or they don't like that. I haven't done anything to my face or they, you know, I mean, so I don't, it, it doesn't, it doesn't any quote blowback I would be getting from anything I'm saying now.

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is in the same bin. In other words, it's no different now than it's ever been. So I don't care. And all I'm saying now is I'm glad that that mob mentality momentum is over because the last eight years and most acutely last four years were fucking unbearable. Unbearable. I never want to go through anything like that again in my life. I truly don't.

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It was the most un-American situation I've ever been in. And I'm 58, I think. I'm 58, you know?

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To say that people can't say, can't ask questions, can't say what they think, can't ask that there be some research on this or that. It was absolutely awful. And I, it was just like revenge of the home monitors.

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It was the, it was the fucking Debbie Downers, the party poopers, the, you know, and one of the things, you know, the, the, the social media video critiques that I'm doing, uh, you know, I mean, I'm not doing that many anymore because you don't have as many, you know, people getting all crazy about it. Um, But I will do it for subscribers for Christmas presents.

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If they want a Christmas present for someone, they can send me their mom's or their sister's or whatever. I mean, it's a good Christmas present, right? And I'll do a critique for them. That's amazing. But there's something about satire, Megan, that's... That was one of the, comedy and satire was one of the first things to take a dive that they squashed.

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Because when you think about it, if you have satire and comedy in a society, you have balance. Because it serves, it's like an insect in an area in nature that keeps certain things at bay. And you eliminate that insect and you'll find, oh, here comes some vine that starts choking the trees. Oh, that was the main food source for that insect that you just got rid of.

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So satire and comedy are like that. They hem in and there's other things, too, of course. But those are two elements that will hem in a society and keep a balance. And you see, that was one of those were two of the first things that they got out in order to make this the this squashing down this hall monitor bullshit. Purification of comedy.

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Well, I think if you're making your relationships with your loved ones and your friends about politics, you're really making it about you, period. You're wanting them to focus on you. You're wanting them, I call it intimacy through injury. If you have a fight with this person, they're going to be thinking about you. They're going to want to call you and fix it or whatever.

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Because you're too afraid to just have a regular relationship with them where they maybe they don't value you think they don't value you that much. So I think it's so it's not about the people that are doing that. It's not about politics. I think it's about they're trying to exact emotional terrorism and control on their friends and family. And it's just trying to manipulate the relationship.

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Gosh, you're so right. It's not even on the list of things. How someone votes is not even on the list of things that I would and would not, you know, want to be around someone because of.

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Female empowerment. Sick. I like it too. I think what I like about it is that I am having a very strongly negative reaction to it. Like I hate it. Which makes me think it must be brilliant. Got this feeling in my body. Can't stop the feeling. Got this feeling in my body. I can't stop the feeling. I did it. I made it to Broadway.