Kai Ryssdal

Now, you can argue with this beat of mine, future effects, that...

Maybe the future is a privilege, and I'm going to weigh in on that with some coverage.

The future is a privilege if you're living hand to mouth, if you're like so many families in America, living paycheck to paycheck.

Yeah, that's nice for the guy to come on the radio and talk about saving more for retirement, or that's nice talking about ways that we should be having a global discussion at an agency like the International Atomic Energy Agency.

for AI.

But if you're worried about getting food on the table, you may not have the luxury to focus on the beat.

So that will be part of what I'm trying to do.

I don't know, Kai, if you knew this.

You know this because I've been going on about this.

David and I have known each other for a very long time.

This wasn't my idea.

It is definitely my idea to do this because I've been excited about it, but the idea of the After Effects beat was actually, how many people remember the name of the famous author, social critic, and satirist Kurt Vonnegut?

I was super lucky.

I got the last big TV interview with Kurt Vonnegut before he

passed away at the age of 83, and he was magnificent.

I just kind of directed traffic briefly.

I wasn't magnificent.

But Colonel Ivana gets there, I'm here, and he looks at me and he says, what no country, in a gravelly voice, what no country's ever had is a secretary of the future, like at the cabinet level.

And he said, there are no plans for our children and our grandchildren.

And so was he speaking metaphorically?