Kail Lowry

Do other lawyers look at...

lawyers that do the apprenticeship approach differently or do they not really care or how does that work?

Right.

Oh my gosh, that's so interesting.

And it's funny that you just said, you know, some people get into law and they don't even want to be lawyers.

Two of my, one of my favorite producers ever from Teen Mom, he was a former family attorney and then he got into law

executive producing TV.

He left that and went to TV.

And then another producer that I'm working with right now, she also is or was an attorney.

They may still both be barred, but I always think that's so fascinating because I'm like...

Why?

I don't get it.

And then I always tell my regular entertainment attorney, I want to be a lawyer.

And she's like, yeah, do copyright or trademark or entertainment law because it's not like family law where nobody wins.

I hate family law.

But I mean.

You'd be surprised.

I mean, frivolous filings don't, I mean, you could file something for frivolous filings, but then it doesn't really do much.

So I don't know.

Okay.