Kaleb Nation

It must be astonishing to you that what has in the past looked like pure satire has been the so-called truth as published through the eyes of mainstream media. It's almost like you guys don't have to do anything anymore because mainstream media has become a satire of itself.

It must be astonishing to you that what has in the past looked like pure satire has been the so-called truth as published through the eyes of mainstream media. It's almost like you guys don't have to do anything anymore because mainstream media has become a satire of itself.

Yeah. That's exactly what I was figuring you would say. But by the same token, I would argue that mockery has never been more important. And I would love you to talk a little bit, I don't know if you're comfortable really laying this out, but the morality of mockery in the present day world seems to me an interesting topic. Not only is it justified, but it is exquisitely important.

Yeah. That's exactly what I was figuring you would say. But by the same token, I would argue that mockery has never been more important. And I would love you to talk a little bit, I don't know if you're comfortable really laying this out, but the morality of mockery in the present day world seems to me an interesting topic. Not only is it justified, but it is exquisitely important.

And I want to drill down on that. Tell me about the defense of mockery.

And I want to drill down on that. Tell me about the defense of mockery.

And when you use mockery, I imagine... I imagine you would consider it sort of low-hanging fruit or maybe even failure if you have to resort to ad hominem mockery. I mean, I would imagine that would be the only most serious transgressors. The mockery is directed at the notions and the ideas, right?

And when you use mockery, I imagine... I imagine you would consider it sort of low-hanging fruit or maybe even failure if you have to resort to ad hominem mockery. I mean, I would imagine that would be the only most serious transgressors. The mockery is directed at the notions and the ideas, right?

It's almost a shorthand argument. And unfortunately, we live in a time when people will not tolerate careful argumentation. They immediately start to attack back with ad hominem arguments or accusations or, you know... You're part of a bad group or whatever. It's not argumentation. So the only thing left really is sort of pulling the curtain back with a little bit of mockery.

It's almost a shorthand argument. And unfortunately, we live in a time when people will not tolerate careful argumentation. They immediately start to attack back with ad hominem arguments or accusations or, you know... You're part of a bad group or whatever. It's not argumentation. So the only thing left really is sort of pulling the curtain back with a little bit of mockery.

And that does tend to get through.

And that does tend to get through.

Again, that's why I sort of think of it as kind of pulling the curtain on these things. I always think as my model in my head is always how would I address a flat earther? And sometimes they do use careful argumentation. Their problem is because there's so much motivated reasoning that they will go back to

Again, that's why I sort of think of it as kind of pulling the curtain on these things. I always think as my model in my head is always how would I address a flat earther? And sometimes they do use careful argumentation. Their problem is because there's so much motivated reasoning that they will go back to

For instance, they at one point took a very fancy gyroscope that was going to predict this certain finding if the earth was not flat, which it of course did. And then their argument was, well, there's something wrong with the gyroscope. So there's no, you're going to have to, now it's time for mockery. That's it. If you're going to be going down that path, we have no choice.

For instance, they at one point took a very fancy gyroscope that was going to predict this certain finding if the earth was not flat, which it of course did. And then their argument was, well, there's something wrong with the gyroscope. So there's no, you're going to have to, now it's time for mockery. That's it. If you're going to be going down that path, we have no choice.

Really, they sometimes leave you no choice. Who is in your crosshairs particularly right now?

Really, they sometimes leave you no choice. Who is in your crosshairs particularly right now?

Yeah, during the darker days of COVID, I just kept saying out loud, where are the comedians? What happened to the comedians? Where are they?

Yeah, during the darker days of COVID, I just kept saying out loud, where are the comedians? What happened to the comedians? Where are they?