Kaleb Nation

And then are they not doing their job? There's just not a business model where journalists can actually be journalists anymore. They just have to read prompters and that's it.

And then are they not doing their job? There's just not a business model where journalists can actually be journalists anymore. They just have to read prompters and that's it.

Very sad. That's really very sad and sort of pathetic that we are there where I guess. They only have themselves to blame. And the way you describe it, I have a sort of a glib moniker for this, which is Trump derangement syndrome. But it all sounds like it started, it's kind of what I was suspicious of. It started with this Trump derangement and then moved on into COVID.

Very sad. That's really very sad and sort of pathetic that we are there where I guess. They only have themselves to blame. And the way you describe it, I have a sort of a glib moniker for this, which is Trump derangement syndrome. But it all sounds like it started, it's kind of what I was suspicious of. It started with this Trump derangement and then moved on into COVID.

And it just went from one delusional thought process to another. And it's truly hysteria and delusion. Now, you studied psychology. Do you agree with me? Because the delusion basically is a thought that's not real. It's not connected to reality per se. And it can't be assailed with rational discourse. That's a delusion. And that's what we were into for sure.

And it just went from one delusional thought process to another. And it's truly hysteria and delusion. Now, you studied psychology. Do you agree with me? Because the delusion basically is a thought that's not real. It's not connected to reality per se. And it can't be assailed with rational discourse. That's a delusion. And that's what we were into for sure.

And there's still remnants of it, strangely.

And there's still remnants of it, strangely.

So let's tiptoe now into the, we'll get your lawyer in here in a second, the First Amendment issues. Because you've used a lot of interesting words. You said, used the word PSYOP and you're talking about, well, it was what it was. It's really what it was, whether it was a massive PSYOP or just a de facto PSYOP, I don't know.

So let's tiptoe now into the, we'll get your lawyer in here in a second, the First Amendment issues. Because you've used a lot of interesting words. You said, used the word PSYOP and you're talking about, well, it was what it was. It's really what it was, whether it was a massive PSYOP or just a de facto PSYOP, I don't know.

But you're saying, you talked about misinformation and disinformation and silencing the outlier. And this all immediately starts to tread on First Amendment issues. So I don't know if you want to frame the First Amendment crisis you're facing, or if I should bring the lawyer in at this point, or if you'd like to start the conversation.

But you're saying, you talked about misinformation and disinformation and silencing the outlier. And this all immediately starts to tread on First Amendment issues. So I don't know if you want to frame the First Amendment crisis you're facing, or if I should bring the lawyer in at this point, or if you'd like to start the conversation.

I would have too, but now I'm listening to people that, there's so many things I would have just been very dismissive of. Now, as Joe Rogan says, maybe the earth is flat, I don't know. I'm open to everything right now. Because everything I thought I knew is suddenly upside down. Pete Serrano is Director of General Counsel for Silent Majority Foundation.

I would have too, but now I'm listening to people that, there's so many things I would have just been very dismissive of. Now, as Joe Rogan says, maybe the earth is flat, I don't know. I'm open to everything right now. Because everything I thought I knew is suddenly upside down. Pete Serrano is Director of General Counsel for Silent Majority Foundation.

You can hear more about them at silentmajorityfoundation.org. And Pete, maybe you can start us off by telling us a little bit about them.

You can hear more about them at silentmajorityfoundation.org. And Pete, maybe you can start us off by telling us a little bit about them.

Yeah, it's interesting that it's the Aaron Cariotti interview that got dinged. So for people that haven't seen the interviews that Allison and I have done with Aaron, he is one of the lead plaintiffs, I guess they would call it, defendant plaintiffs in the Missouri versus Biden case, which was originally called. And he was a psychiatrist at University of California, Irvine.

Yeah, it's interesting that it's the Aaron Cariotti interview that got dinged. So for people that haven't seen the interviews that Allison and I have done with Aaron, he is one of the lead plaintiffs, I guess they would call it, defendant plaintiffs in the Missouri versus Biden case, which was originally called. And he was a psychiatrist at University of California, Irvine.

He was for years the head of their bioethics committee and teaching bioethics to medical students. And when the vaccine mandates in particular came along, he said, I'm constantly lecturing this entire institution about how the difficult part about bioethics is when you must walk the walk. It sometimes can be very difficult.

He was for years the head of their bioethics committee and teaching bioethics to medical students. And when the vaccine mandates in particular came along, he said, I'm constantly lecturing this entire institution about how the difficult part about bioethics is when you must walk the walk. It sometimes can be very difficult.