Kara Swisher

She didn't want to go.

She's the America first, Greg.

Her and Vance are on the maybe not so much kind of group.

I think he got that.

I think some guy told him to do this.

Yeah, but there's no leadership.

Which is what Tillis said.

Tillis was like, he always tries very hard not to insult Trump himself, but he's like the advisors.

And he's particularly, for example, went after Trump.

Stephen Miller on immigration, he particularly goes after the advisors.

He's like, either you have an advisor who's stupid and just tells them dumb things, or you have an advisor who knows better who says nothing, right?

Who tries to assuage the president versus... And he goes, either way, his advisors suck.

And I think that's true.

But at some point, it's treating Trump like a toddler.

Oh, we managed to keep him this or that.

So it's a complicated situation there.

Is this guy...

wants to do what he wants to do now.

And he has advisors who are either too weak to tell him the truth or tell him the truth and then get fired or slapped for it kind of stuff.

I don't know.