Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Yeah, what show is this? Where are we?
Oh, stop it.
Where are you?
It's your main show. It's the one that fuels all the others. Hi, everyone. This is Pivot from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. I'm Cara Swisher.
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Chapter 2: How is the FCC impacting media freedom?
That's not to say we shouldn't hold them accountable. It's not to say they shouldn't be subject to the same rules and regulation as other industries. But if you had a red button to push and do away with all big tech, you wouldn't want to do it.
And for all the problems and externalities, there isn't a single nation in the world that's presented with the opportunity to say, put your headquarters here. The problem is, the big tech, I don't think Italy is a net gainer from big tech. The U.S. is, but I'm not sure other nations are.
Yeah, they are.
And so a lot of these nations are doing the math and saying, you've gutted our media companies. You don't pay that many taxes here. You haven't really increased employment a lot. You're just creating tremendous disruption.
And sexualized deep fakes.
Yeah, and also you now appear to be an existential threat to our kids' emotional and physical well-being. We're not down with, you know, the idolatry of innovators for a lot of good reasons and some bad, has totally kind of infected or overwhelmed the U.S. The worm has turned a little bit. AI is way down. People are realizing what a negative impact this has had on our children.
And then going much bigger, it's manifesting itself in terms of being ground zero for frustrations around income inequality. But these other nations just aren't that impressed by these guys. They're like, okay, you broke a law, we're going to charge you.
Yeah, I like the activity. And I think, as you said, a long time ago, early in our relationship, someone has to do a perp walk on whether it's chatbots and kids dying or something like that. Someone has to go to jail. They won't, but I like the effort by these governments.
And I don't think it's, I think someone needs to investigate how they made these decisions about sexualized deep fakes and child pornography on whatever service that does it and what they did to stop it or not stop it. I think it's important for public to know.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the upcoming redistricting wars?
And I hate myself for even thinking. Oh, maybe it was, right? Without any proof. And I find that feeling in me really gross. I have to say the conspiracy theory minded. But you become more that way as you live in this world where AI and social media and everything else just sort of spins your brain in a way that's really gross.
And speaking of clarity, I have to say, one thing is, first of all, Matt Damon on Saturday Night Live was superb, and he looks like he's great in The Odyssey. That was a superb show. SNL is really bringing it.
He's a really solid actor.
Anyway, but I have to give, talking about clarity, Chelsea Handler at the Kevin Hart roast was fantastic. fucking super. So was Tom Brady, by the way. But let me say, Chelsea Handler handed it back to the MAGA sort of adjacent comedian bros.
You love that. I thought of you when I saw that.
Let's listen to her call out the comedians who went to the Saudi comedy festival.
Now that your favorite leader is making the draft mandatory, I assume that all of you will be signing up to go fight in Iran. Or do you tough talking pussies only go to the Middle East for comedy festivals?
She had so many lines. That was a nicer one. And then she had some choice words for Tony Hinchcliffe. And she said, Tony is what happens when women don't have safe access to abortion care, which I thought was funny. And then also like, who's warming Joe Rogan's balls in their mouth now that you're here tonight? He looked sick the way she attacked him. And it was so good. She did such a good job.
I have to say, Chelsea, I love you. Marry me. I gotta say, so good. She was fantastic. And they just, he was so uncomfortable. Like, they can't take a joke, these people. They can dish it out, but they can't take it. And Chelsea put them down, put them down. And I love to see it. Anyway, your thoughts?
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