Kara Swisher

And I think it does, I think we'll be picking up from this guy for centuries, like it's not a century, for decades.

And I think it's not a good thing, but it isn't necessarily a bad thing to have to be battered

right, for a second just to see what holds and what needs to be fixed.

And it does allow us to reflect on who we are and what we want to be.

I mean, it's kind of interesting that we're in this 250 years.

And it says, okay, what doesn't work?

What does work?

What do we need to think about?

And it does knock everyone into a sense of what matters to them.

And I don't think, I think it's a painful way to learn something, but I think it's a way to learn things.

I do.

Yep, we do.

I think they're finished.

These cases that are starting to build up, I think people are, it takes, you know, as you know, cigarettes, 20 years.

This is Philip Morris again.

And everybody is like, just a fucking second.

And I think, I know it sounds crazy, but I have so many people now coming up to me after I wrote Burn Book, which at the time, people were like, oh, you're so mean to them.

They're such important innovators.

People come to me now and they're like, you weren't mean enough.

You weren't mean enough, like you weren't tough enough on them.