Kara Swisher

which I think you should all listen to.

It's up today.

I mean, he was expressing great distaste for this whole action.

He's obviously a very conservative senator from North Carolina.

He's leaving Congress, so he feels like he can say whatever he wants, which he did.

So what do you think's happening here, Scott?

I mean, the back and forth and the people are sort of trying to get out of the Trump blast zone on this situation.

I'm sorry to use that metaphor, but.

But she probably advised that.

She didn't want to go.

She's the America first, Greg.

Her and Vance are on the maybe not so much kind of group.

I think he got that.

I think some guy told him to do this.

Yeah, but there's no leadership.

Which is what Tillis said.

Tillis was like, he always tries very hard not to insult Trump himself, but he's like the advisors.

And he's particularly, for example, went after Trump.

Stephen Miller on immigration, he particularly goes after the advisors.

He's like, either you have an advisor who's stupid and just tells them dumb things, or you have an advisor who knows better who says nothing, right?