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Karen Hao

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1356 total appearances

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

When he's talking with consumers that he's trying to sell his products to, it's the most amazing digital assistant that you're ever going to have.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

When he was talking with Microsoft, you know, in the deal that OpenAI and Microsoft struck, where Microsoft invested in the company, it was defined as a system that will generate $100 billion of revenue.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And on OpenAI's own website, they define it as highly autonomous systems that outperform humans in most economically valuable work.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

This is like not a coherent definition.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

vision of one technology.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

These are very different definitions that are spoken out loud to the audience that needs to be mobilized to ward off regulation or get more consumer buy-in into the industry's quest or to get more capital, more resources for continuing on this journey with ambiguous definitions.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

In general, when Altman is writing for the public or speaking for the public, he does not just have the public as the audience in mind.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

There are other people that he is trying to motivate or mobilize when he says these things.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And in that particular moment, Altman was trying to convince Elon Musk to join him on co-founding OpenAI.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And Musk, in particular, was spending all of his time sounding the alarm on what he saw as a huge existential threat that AI could pose.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And so in that blog post, if you look at the language that Altman uses side by side with the language that Musk was using at the time, it mirrors all the things that Musk was saying.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

It's identical.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And so, you know, like his parenthetical, there are other things that might actually be more likely to happen, like engineered viruses.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

It's because up until then, Altman had been talking just about engineered viruses.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And so now that he needs to pivot to speak to an audience of one, to Musk—

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

He needs to kind of resolve the contradiction between what he's now elevating as his new central fear to be the same as Musk's new central fear with what he had previously been saying.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

So that's why he's like, I think this is now, even though before I said this.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Elon Musk did end up co-founding it with Altman.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And certainly from Musk's perspective, he does feel manipulated because he feels like...