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Karen Hao

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1356 total appearances

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The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Altman was engineering his language in a way that would make Musk trust him as a partner in this endeavor.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And of course, then Musk leaves.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And through some of the documents that came out during the lawsuit that Musk and Altman are engaged in now, it has become clear that there was a degree to which Musk was actually muscled out a little bit in

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And so that's why he's left with this very intense personal vendetta against Altman, saying that somehow Altman tricked him into being part of this.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

So we know from the lawsuit and the documents that have come out in the lawsuit that Ilya Sutskever, who was the chief scientist of OpenAI at the time, and Greg Brockman, chief technology officer at the time, when they were deciding whether or not to maintain OpenAI as a nonprofit, because it was originally found as a nonprofit, they decided, okay, we need to create a for-profit entity.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

But the question was, who should be the CEO of this for-profit entity?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Should it be Musk or should it be Altman?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Because they were the two co-chairmen of the nonprofit.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And in the emails, it became clear that Ilya and Greg first chose Musk to be the CEO.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

But through my reporting, I discovered that Altman then appealed personally to Greg Brockman, who was a friend of his, that they'd known each other for many years through the Silicon Valley scene, and said...

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Don't you think that it would be a little bit dangerous to have Musk be the CEO of this company, this new for-profit entity?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Because, you know, he's a famous guy.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

He has a lot of pressures in the world.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

He could be threatened.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

He could act erratically.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

He could be unpredictable.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And do we really want a technology that could be super powerful in the future to end up in the hands of this man?

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

Yeah.

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!

And that convinced Greg and Greg then convinced Ilya, you know, I think there's a point here.