Karen Kilgariff

Yeah. He must have targeted them. Man. But why would you do it again in the same? I mean, I guess you didn't get caught the first time. Yeah, you didn't get caught. And you're cocky. And he still has the fantasy. Like he still has.

Yeah. He must have targeted them. Man. But why would you do it again in the same? I mean, I guess you didn't get caught the first time. Yeah, you didn't get caught. And you're cocky. And he still has the fantasy. Like he still has.

Well, when that when during the trial, when a lot of the stuff is being or when he was listening to his own testimony, he would he would plug up his ears and cry like he couldn't listen to it, even though when he was giving that information during the interrogation, he was like crying.

Well, when that when during the trial, when a lot of the stuff is being or when he was listening to his own testimony, he would he would plug up his ears and cry like he couldn't listen to it, even though when he was giving that information during the interrogation, he was like crying.

like dead you know emotionally dead wow so either that was just for the just for the show for the jury oh that's true or you know maybe he was on anti-psychotics or something at that point and understood or if he was like yeah he was like hadn't processed anything yeah he was confessing yeah OK, we're back. Georgia, are there any updates for this story? Yeah, there are some.

like dead you know emotionally dead wow so either that was just for the just for the show for the jury oh that's true or you know maybe he was on anti-psychotics or something at that point and understood or if he was like yeah he was like hadn't processed anything yeah he was confessing yeah OK, we're back. Georgia, are there any updates for this story? Yeah, there are some.

You know, in before today's episode, I was reading a bunch of articles about everything because I'm so curious personally about any other murders he may have committed that we don't know about. And there's just still no information about that whatsoever whatsoever. So that's kind of I mean, I just I feel like it has to be there. But so Kerry Stainer is now 63 years old.

You know, in before today's episode, I was reading a bunch of articles about everything because I'm so curious personally about any other murders he may have committed that we don't know about. And there's just still no information about that whatsoever whatsoever. So that's kind of I mean, I just I feel like it has to be there. But so Kerry Stainer is now 63 years old.

He's still incarcerated at San Quentin. And as I mentioned, they're looking into him for five other killings dating back to the 80s. And there's just including his own uncle and there's still nothing. And he's never been charged in those cases.

He's still incarcerated at San Quentin. And as I mentioned, they're looking into him for five other killings dating back to the 80s. And there's just including his own uncle and there's still nothing. And he's never been charged in those cases.

And then the FBI later revealed that Kerry Stainer originally planned to murder his then girlfriend that he was dating at the time of these murders and her two children. And he attempted three separate occasions, but was derailed when he saw another person on the grounds where they lived, leading him to find his first victims at the Cedar Lodge Motel instead.

And then the FBI later revealed that Kerry Stainer originally planned to murder his then girlfriend that he was dating at the time of these murders and her two children. And he attempted three separate occasions, but was derailed when he saw another person on the grounds where they lived, leading him to find his first victims at the Cedar Lodge Motel instead.

And actually, one of the little girls, one of the daughters of the then-girlfriend, has come forward and talked about him as the perfect stepdad type. And they had no clue whatsoever, of course. Wow. And then her horrible survivor's guilt that she had and just how awfully it affected her life. It's really moving. But yeah, in general, that's just such a fuck story.

And actually, one of the little girls, one of the daughters of the then-girlfriend, has come forward and talked about him as the perfect stepdad type. And they had no clue whatsoever, of course. Wow. And then her horrible survivor's guilt that she had and just how awfully it affected her life. It's really moving. But yeah, in general, that's just such a fuck story.

So dark. Just terrible. I know. I think there's a really good documentary out there about this, too, if you want to check it out. All right. Well, let's get to your wild story. Wild, also heartbreaking. This is Karen's story about Clark Rockefeller.

So dark. Just terrible. I know. I think there's a really good documentary out there about this, too, if you want to check it out. All right. Well, let's get to your wild story. Wild, also heartbreaking. This is Karen's story about Clark Rockefeller.

What's the documentary called? It's called My Friend Rockefeller. Yeah, I never got through it.

What's the documentary called? It's called My Friend Rockefeller. Yeah, I never got through it.

Fair enough. And doesn't he make like everyone happy around him too? Like everyone thinks he's so funny.

Fair enough. And doesn't he make like everyone happy around him too? Like everyone thinks he's so funny.