Karen Torgaly

One of Sabin's fellows, whose name was Bob Chanik, who he called his scientific son because he was very close to this fellow.

He said, yeah, Albert used to sit by the phone every Monday in October waiting for the phone to ring to hear from the Nobel Committee that he was chosen to get the Nobel Prize for his vaccine.

And it just never happened.

So eventually he gave up.

And actually Salk said when he was asked about that, he said, yeah, he said, but most people believe I got it.

So it's kind of the same thing.

What interested me about him was how he got to be so successful and why it was that he was so abrasive, yet be such a great humanitarian.

He gave so much to the world, but he couldn't do it to those he was closest to.

He was a salesman and he was able to convince people of his methodology and

Sometimes just because he's talked more loudly and more convincingly than other people, but also because his science was superior.

He insisted that all the people he worked with record their experiments in detail so they could see either where it went right or wrong and other people could duplicate it.

And that if they didn't record it, it was not worth doing.

Also, just that he cared so much about the children of the world that he sacrificed a big part of his life just traveling and not being comfortable in retirement.

He got involved in many other causes like nuclear disarmament.

He was against the Vietnam War, and he protested with people.

He also testified before Congress on a number of issues.

So he never retired.

And just the year before he died, he was still writing papers.

And even though he was hospitalized, he gave a lecture that he had agreed to do from a wheelchair with his IVs running and with his EKG monitor blipping away,

But he still gave his lecture.