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Karen Torgaly

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
284 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They could relax a little bit and know that they didn't have to go through the summers preventing their children from going to swimming pools or places where they would get polio.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

Now they were protected.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So Jonas Salk became sort of a celebrity scientist.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

He was well-spoken and handsome and the press loved him and the public loved him.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And so Salk's vaccine was used for five full years before the Sabin vaccine was ready to be used and had been tested on people in Eastern Europe.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

At the time, in the 1950s, there were huge polio epidemics in the USSR.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

These epidemics were just wiping out many, many children and causing lots of paralysis in others.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So they found out about the Salk vaccine and that it was successful in the United States, and they were desperate to

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

to get something that would work for them.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And they decided to send their best virologists from the USSR to the United States to learn how to make the vaccines.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They also knew that Sabin was developing another kind of vaccine.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They wanted to learn about both.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

So this scientist named Mikhail Chumakov and his wife, Marina Voroshilova, were two of the most famous scientists in Russia.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They came over with several other people and, of course, with the KGB watching them and our people watching everybody.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And they traveled from lab to lab to learn the techniques that they needed to know to develop a polio vaccine in the Soviet Union.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They really bonded with Sabin because Sabin remembered how to speak some Russian.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And he had that Eastern European experience.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

And his personality and Chumakov's personality were very similar.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They both had these explosive tempers and were perfectionists and wouldn't put up with any nonsense.

American History Tellers
Conquering Polio | There Is No Patent | 4

They bonded and became good friends, and this lasted their whole lives.