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Karim Sadjadpour

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
495 total appearances

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

going along for financial, political expediency.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

And so most people in that system recognize that it's not sustainable and they're waiting for the Supreme Leader to die.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

Now, what happens if instead of dying a natural death,

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

or some kind of internal coup, he's taken out by American missiles.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

That, in my view, is an enormous risk, an enormous gamble, that instead of this evolutionary process happening, it could...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

further radicalize and mobilize the true believers in that system to actually try to preserve power among themselves.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

That is something that I would be concerned about.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

If Ayatollah Khamenei were 50 years old, perhaps I would think differently.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

But martyring an 86-year-old, I think, is fraught with some risk.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

So that is a very valid concern, that what are you going to do with 150,000 plus Revolutionary Guardsmen and their affiliated militia members, the Basij militia, who are usually much more ideological in their worldview.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

And that is a concern that I have if the goal turns out to be...

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

decapitation operation to try to topple the regime.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

Because these folks, as we saw in post-Saddam Iraq, they're armed and they're organized.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

Now, I don't want to claim that they're monolithic.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

They are not 150,000 true believers.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

But what I learned from observing the Iraq war is that 1% of society can make life hell for 99% of society if they're

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

And things like that, if they feel like they're not going to have any role in the country's tomorrow.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

And so that, I think, is so critical for Iran's future.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

For any opposition movement or democratic movement to try to figure out a way to co-opt these folks under a very big tent.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
What Could Go Wrong, or Right, in a War with Iran

So if you think about power in Iran is like a pyramid, shaped like a pyramid.