Kate Ceberano

She's so brave.

Right.

So that's what... And then I get to the centre and there's the family photos.

And I look at this tall... I love the photos in books.

I love those books.

I love the photos in books.

I can pour over them again and again and again.

I'm always referring back to as well, because I actually always see you in my mind's eye when I'm reading the book.

Right.

And I see this lovely tall lad leaning in against the veranda with the family photo.

And I thought...

Now I'd love my daughter, who's sitting upstairs, it's COVID, third year in.

Yeah, you know, to meet someone who reads as nice as that.

And so Trudy was doing my makeup, as you said.

And I said to her, I've got something, if you don't mind, when we talked and determined that she was actually in Lewis's car that day.

Could you ask Lewis to come and pick something up at the house?

Because I've got something I think she might like, like Kate might like.

And they met over the garden gate.

And you know what I love most about them is they are a sell-on to themselves.

Like they have big mothers, big families, big stories going on.