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Kate Klonick

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199 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Radiolab
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And so this has kind of become the new standard.

Radiolab
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No, I mean, I've always liked the mall metaphor and it has a weird squirrely little place in First Amendment law in a bunch of cases.

Radiolab
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But I want to hear what you kind of want to hear what yours is.

Radiolab
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A hundred percent.

Radiolab
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You know, you can shadow ban or take down or limit the reach, but it doesn't even have to be that subtle.

Radiolab
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Like Elon Musk always showing up in my feed, even though I don't follow Elon Musk, is like having Rupert Murdoch in like the interstitial spaces before every commercial break at Fox News, you know, like directly telling me what I should think.

Radiolab
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That isn't subtle.

Radiolab
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Like that is the other thing about this that is maybe the scariest part of the last couple of months is that none of it even is super pretextual.

Radiolab
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Like there isn't a lot of like excuses.

Radiolab
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We're not even hiding behind algorithms anymore.

Radiolab
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It is just the owner of the platform saying the thing out loud and forcing everyone to see it if they're on his platform.

Radiolab
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You know, I think that if you're going to all of these different platform islands, the other thing is, like, how do we change those?

Radiolab
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To use regulatory regimes to try to control how they speak is obviously a problematic thing by any type of measure.

Radiolab
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We don't want governments controlling speech for the exact reason of all of the authoritarianism we've just discussed.

Radiolab
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And so I think that there's... It's very hard... Sorry, if I can jump in there, though, but it does feel like...

Radiolab
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No, I mean, like every Western state has some type of media regulator specifically to avoid maybe like two or three people controlling all of media.

Radiolab
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But all of a sudden we're like on the internet and yes, there is an infinite amount of content on the internet, but is it so infinite?

Radiolab
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Like if there are, if we're talking about like the same three main places that people are going to for their news, people are going to for like their, for their daily interactions, people are going to, to feel like they're part of a conversation, their water cooler, their public square, whatever it is.