Kate Langbroek

Yeah.

But that is also the artist, isn't it?

You know?

And why do you want to stop scratching it?

Is it because it's unbearable for it not to be?

It is an overused word.

It is an overused word.

Now, this is interesting about you because we are all familiar with the template of the artist who

by dint of the definition of what an artist is, it requires a huge degree of selfishness, which is to focus on the self and the calling of the self.

But you also straddle a more prosaic world, which is as a wife, a more like earthy world as a wife and a mother and a daughter and a sister and an aunt, blah, blah, blah.

How is that tension served by an artist?

And what are the sacrifices that you have made?

Because it comes at a cost.

But sometimes it's hard for people to come back from that.

And, you know, if I look at your career...

Which you are now being honoured by the ARIA Hall of Fame, which is an extraordinary honour.

It's a massive honour.

Well-earned and a long time coming, given that I believe you've never actually, they never gave you an ARIA.

Yeah, right.

Okay.