Kate Legge

And he wrote her this long letter explaining why he was going and to the children as well.

And absolutely, he uses Luda's full name, you know, I'm going to Sydney with my business acquaintance and, you know, he'd also feigned impotency in the bedroom.

And so he had no shame.

But it was the lies that were so shameful, really.

Right.

So that was your husband's father.

But then looking further back still, his father had become aware that his mother had been having an affair.

Tell me how that unfolded, please, Kate.

Well, that's a difficult one because, of course, we only got Colin's word for what happened.

But I have been able to confirm elements of the story.

So he was 14 when his family, his parents had... This is crazy.

Colin, who's Greg's dad, your husband's father.

Yes, my husband's father.

When he was 14.

When he was 14, he accused his mother in front of his father of having an affair with the lodger who they'd taken in to give them some extra money.

So I don't know... It's always the bloody lodger, isn't it?

I know.

The unnamed lodger.

I don't know whether he caught them in bed or whether he saw them too often together or whether he overheard gossip that they were dancing a hair's breadth apart.

I'm not sure how he found out.