Kate Legge

And she noticed when she walked into the house, because she was part of that generation of women who'd gone back to university when Gough Whitlam, you know, removed fees.

And she realised her desk had gone and she thought, oh,

Where's the desk gone?

He said, I had to take it back to the office.

And then she looked around because he was so impeccable with the fastidious and the way everything was kept in the house.

She noticed that everything had been tidied up.

Of course, he'd removed things to go.

And he bought her in a cup of tea and a piece of toast and said, I've moved out while you were away.

And she was gobsmacked.

She said, is there anyone else?

And he denied it, denied everything and said no.

But of course.

What, even then?

Even then, even then.

And she didn't tweak to it until sometime later.

She put everything together out of the line of sight and realised what had happened.

I'm just experiencing the... I don't know what I'm feeling at the moment, but I just feel sort of like, I don't know, this...

Post-traumatic stress syndrome.

Yeah, this kind of, this powerful sense of shame he must have had or not had, I don't know.

No, well, not had.