Kate Legge

So they are immensely sociable, absolutely driven in pursuit of goals, determined to achieve.

Nothing gets in their way.

They're both profligate and generous.

They're very concerned with the cut of their clothes.

There were just certain elements of their personality that made me suspect that they were unable to restrain the desire for personal gratification, that that could be an element in what leads people astray.

Sometimes I've noticed in people like Bill Clinton, I recognise the trait and I've seen this in other men.

I think they're very used to pleasing other people.

They grow up, they learn how to be pleasing to other people.

Bill Clinton is certainly like that.

That's how, that's why he was such a successful politician.

And I think there's something in the back of his mind that tells him, I've been a good boy for everyone and I deserve a treat.

I deserve a treat, a dirty and a treat that's going to be my own little secret treat of a kind.

And I will do, and he has this preposterous affair with an intern.

So he's been a good boy and a good boy and a good boy and a good boy and now he's going to be a bad boy secretly.

What do you think of that?

Oh, I think that's possibly true.

And again, it's that unrestrained desire for personal gratification.

You know, he decided to reward himself because he feels he's been such a good boy.

Again, I think because it hadn't tripped him up before, he'd been able to successfully skate through his presidential bid, even though these stories about his cheating came out.

His wife stood beside him and he...