Kate Manne

Thank you. I certainly wasn't randomly guessing. I regularly study presidential parties in my spare time.

I would say on time because it so rarely happens, honestly.

I think when I hear Slim Kim or anyone saying that they love being skinny, the flip side of that is I fear being fat or I hate what I've constructed around the idea of fatness. And I think it's also sending a pretty clear message to the rest of us that our bodies need to look like that too.

I think this just reminds me that it can take so little quote unquote progress to incite a cultural backlash. What might seem to some like this inflated amount of body positivity, it's a relatively small slice of what the cultural discourse has been.

And yet it's engendering this outsized reaction and then set the stage for kind of, well, if you're proud of being fat, I'm proud of being thin and we're bringing thin back. And I frankly don't think thin ever went anywhere, really.

Absolutely. And I also just think that, you know, when it comes to bodily autonomy, your body is yours. And do I wish for you that you would have bigger dreams for it than just being small? Absolutely. But I don't get to tell anyone else how to live inside their body.

I mean, you could consider yourself to be able-bodied and thin one day and have something happen that changes both of those ways of being the next. And I think even if you don't see the...

painful and difficult discourse around fat phobia and how bodies should look as applying to you now, it's worth getting invested in because unfortunately we're not guaranteed anything, let alone the continued shape of our bodies in the ways that most please us.

I was going to say Gerald Ford, so I don't think I'm winning this one.