Kate Rowe

You write that you started off with very good grades at school but then they dropped.

Yeah.

Can you tell me that story about what was going on at the time?

From the Gardner.

How old were you when that started?

Was there any way you could understand what was going on?

I mean, there's much greater awareness about these things now, but was there at the time in your mind, did you understand that this man was perpetrating something monstrous?

Was he actually, like, play-acting like you were husband and wife or something?

Were you making dinner and putting them... So what hour were you coming home at night?

Oh, this nice man.

What's been some of the lingering...

after effects of that grooming and that abuse?

So in Manchester, cut off from this relationship with this man, what effect did that have on you then as this kind of teenager now in Manchester, no longer in the presence of this man?

How did you make your way to Australia at that point?

This is 71.

Yeah, 71.

So the White Australia Policy is only starting to be dismantled, but it's still pretty much in place.

Oh, yeah.

And you put coins in the heater.

Turns out they weren't getting quite the migrant they had in mind.