Kate Rowe

No, no, no.

And we're all the better for that, of course.

So what do you remember of the ship pulling into Sydney Harbour?

There are lots of parts of Sydney that are not quite as lovely as Sydney Harbour.

Where was your first job?

How was your behaviour around drugs and alcohol going in those days?

I remember seeing a lot of people doing that in the 80s, for example, and I'm sure that still goes on now.

You have this straighty 180 life from Monday to Friday and then come Friday night all hell breaks loose and then you try and pull yourself back together again for Monday morning.

So you did a bit of travelling around Australia.

What kind of things were you doing as you were travelling around Australia?

So there are all these moments in your memoir where I think, what?

What?

You're doing what?

And this brings me to one of those episodes, which is while you were travelling around Australia...

there was suddenly the idea to go to Timor.

Whose idea was this?

Was this your idea?

What, in a car, a coffee or a hitching?

Walking across Timor?

We walked across Timor.