Kate

They're a little ambiguous, right? So I think the writers are like, we want to give them things that people can sort of hold on to that give them a sense of purpose and what their dream is. Right. Right.

Nor is Beth. Nor is Beth. Right. Neither of them are. Like family life is great. Is a dream. Kids are great, et cetera, et cetera. But in terms of what they want to give their lives to. Right. There's something lacking. Right.

Nor is Beth. Nor is Beth. Right. Neither of them are. Like family life is great. Is a dream. Kids are great, et cetera, et cetera. But in terms of what they want to give their lives to. Right. There's something lacking. Right.

Nor is Beth. Nor is Beth. Right. Neither of them are. Like family life is great. Is a dream. Kids are great, et cetera, et cetera. But in terms of what they want to give their lives to. Right. There's something lacking. Right.

We'll be right back with more That Was Us.

We'll be right back with more That Was Us.

We'll be right back with more That Was Us.

The more exposed you are, the more proactive you have to be.

The more exposed you are, the more proactive you have to be.

The more exposed you are, the more proactive you have to be.

So now we have Kev and Zoe.

So now we have Kev and Zoe.

So now we have Kev and Zoe.

And he's about to get interviewed.

And he's about to get interviewed.

And he's about to get interviewed.

By Terry Gross, whoever that dude is. And Zoe's like, he's not a dude. She's a lady and she's awesome. And he's like, oh, okay. It's because of Terry Gross that she wants to come as well. Zoe wants to come and check out.

By Terry Gross, whoever that dude is. And Zoe's like, he's not a dude. She's a lady and she's awesome. And he's like, oh, okay. It's because of Terry Gross that she wants to come as well. Zoe wants to come and check out.

By Terry Gross, whoever that dude is. And Zoe's like, he's not a dude. She's a lady and she's awesome. And he's like, oh, okay. It's because of Terry Gross that she wants to come as well. Zoe wants to come and check out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this is a serious interview. There you go. It's a serious thing. And Kev goes, meets Terry. Terry Gross, you're great in the show. Yeah, she's great. You're really, really wonderful. She took it super seriously. It felt so real. She was totally herself. Yeah. And when she meets Kevin and Zoe, Zoe admits to being a big fan because she's a documentarian.