Katherine Aguilar

You know, I thought about fixing and flipping.

Then we renovated a part of our house and we were like, no, that's not going to be.

So we had to kind of try it and fail, but then be like, okay, and not fail, but be like, I don't like that.

Fail forward, right?

And then be like, I did it, and we always do things with 110%, but it's not something that was meant for me.

It didn't fulfill you.

It didn't fulfill.

And so then we ended up getting into our connections and just relying on

conversations with other people.

And that's really what opened it up, because before it was like, oh, we're always in this competition mindset.

Correct.

Like, you know, oh, that person isn't going to talk to me about their business because they see me as a competitor and vice versa.

Right.

Might be somebody in that mindset.

But then when you actually speak to somebody who's in abundance,

Oh, my God.

And then you start trading notes and then all this stuff.

And they could be in the same freaking business as you, but they see eye to eye with you as a friend that really just wants to push you along and you help each other.

And that really was the key.

And this was after we got out of COVID, yeah.