Katherine Boyle

We want in on the second time founder who knows how to do it.

But it was like, Palmer Lucky?

The guy who just got fired for the Hillary billboard?

Like the fascist?

The fascist guy in Silicon Valley?

And what's his company do?

Well, they're building a border security company.

Oh, they're building a border security company to help ICE?

You know, like, I mean, it was, immediately I was sort of outed in my firm as, like, Catherine's kind of insane, but they're like, we're not, like, we're not gonna do that.

And it was, you know, pushing, I pushed a bunch, and finally we got a tiny little check in, and the conversation wasn't even about the company.

The conversation was about, well, if it's this small of a check, like, you know, like, we'll see what happens, right?

But it sort of, like, kind of, you know, skirted in a small check into the seed round, but that kind of gave me entree

Like a couple million dollars.

And they had raised what was at the time a very big seed round.

It was a $17 million round.

And people thought that was insane.

I mean, now you're seeing seed rounds of hundreds of millions of dollars.

But this was because Palmer was extraordinary.

He was an extraordinary founder, had an extraordinary exit.

But there was definite concern, particularly among the early investors of, okay, is this a company that's even gonna be able to raise capital?