Katherine Boyle

You were so forced to sort of falsify your preferences publicly if you didn't want to get canceled that you really couldn't talk about things.

And you could on Clubhouse in some ways, and you could in the group chats.

And so I got to know Mark and David and a bunch of people at Andreessen Horowitz.

And I'd say a lot of these ideas were

were really talked about and debated on an app that was this ephemeral thing that was really important during COVID, because no one had a way to connect.

But I also tell people a lot, especially young people, you'd be surprised who you can meet on the internet.

Like, you'd be surprised, like, the people you can connect with and have deep relationships with, even if you haven't, you know, had lunch with them.

Like, you don't have to go to someone's, you know, house or office and have coffee with them.

Like, you can have deep connections with people just by writing and thinking online.

And, you know, I spent a lot of time on the Internet.

And I live in the middle of nowhere, so it's like I need to spend a lot of time on the Internet.

But that's how I got acquainted with Mark and with a lot of people in Silicon Valley and with a lot of people at my current firm, too.

But I do think, you know, I look at someone like Dino, who I think your conversation with him is extraordinary, right?

Like, in some ways, he's even, he's the example of speed running that process even more, right?

Because it's like, he's building, he's the CEO of a massive company.

And he had no tech relationships, you know?

It's like, he knew a little bit about

tech, but he's not a cracked engineer himself.

He went from being a Navy SEAL to now running one of the most important companies for the Navy in three years.

He went to business school, yes, he went to private equity, but the things he was doing in private equity are not at all like what he's doing here.