Kathleen Glasgow
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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And I didn't realize until after I finished the book. in like the first few drafts that in the character of her half sister, I was really like trying to bring my own sister back because that character has some of the same, um, Beautiful, like kind, loving and freewheeling traits that my sister had.
Like I lived with my sister for a little bit when I was a teen when things were not going well for me. And it was very much like, you know, we're just having ho-hos for dinner tonight. And Tiger's like, wait, that's not a reel. That's not a dinner. It's like, yes, it is. And we're just going to watch TV. You know, and I gave her some of those things.
And then I did realize after I finished that, I'm like, am I trying to bring my sister Weezy back somehow? Am I trying to immortalize her? And I think that I did.
Oh, she was all... She was, like, great with that. There was a moment early on where I turned in this draft that... Because when Girl in Pieces came out, like, I was really kind of...
overwhelmed by the reaction to it and a lot of people loved it but everyone was saying oh my god this book is so sad and this book is so traumatic and it's like I lived with self-harm and I've lived with a lot of other things in my life that are really sad and traumatic They seem normal to me. Do you know what I mean? You just get used to them. You're like, this is how my life was.
And so I developed a self-defense mechanism, which a lot of people do. And this is why I love my recovery group, because everyone has a very dark sense of humor about the things that they've gone through. And you can joke about it with each other. So I was very... I was very overwhelmed by that. And I was like, people think this is so sad. Maybe I should not write such a sad book.
So I had turned in this draft of How to Make Friends with the Dark to my editor. And she was like, OK, great. I'm going to read through this. And then she went on this like month long vacation. And while she was gone, I was like, you know, maybe I should rewrite this and I should make it funnier. Cause like grief can be really funny when you think about it. Like, Oh my God, you're dead.
What happened? What is happening to me? And I rewrote it so that I thought it was like funnier. And then when she came back and read that draft, she said, Kathleen, what is going on? What happened? No, no, no, no, no. The other draft, that's the one. That's what you do. That's what I love about you. That's what people are going to love about this book is that you get to it. You're a dark writer.
That's who you are. And I needed to hear that, that everything was going to be kind of dark and sad from that moment on, whatever book that I wrote. And I was like, okay.
That's... I mean, because I think it's what we were talking about. They need somebody else to say it. That's what they're going to you for. Because then in that, they see some hope for themselves. Because then they look at you and they say, wait, you got...
through this or you're working through it and i see you actively every day like on videos like working through these things that have happened to you and i want to do that and so i feel like that gives them some sense of like there is a light at the end of the tunnel and they're like they tell you like of course you're funny but um could you go back to that other thing and it's like okay i will do that i'm like no problem and i i think that's okay and and i needed to be told that by my editor
I really did. And it, that I, like for me, I'm very proud of having written that book. It, it, but it's, yeah, but it's, it's like, I have a very complicated relationship to it because I don't know that I could ever read that book like again, because it is, it is really sad. And it just makes, I mean, my mother didn't live to see me publish any books.
And, you know, people will always say, oh, she would be so proud of you. And my first thought is yes. And my second thought is because I know my mother, she would say, didn't have to be so sad.
Yes, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I'm just like, I'm playing out all my trauma in the fictional world. For everyone. And yeah, that's the way it works. And, you know, that's partly it probably comes from a little bit of like my background in poetry where I'm used to like talking about emotional things in a narrative way.
No, I had jumped head on into the pool of novel writing, and I wasn't doing poetry. And after How to Make Friends with the Dark, I really missed writing poetry. So when I started writing You'd Be Home Now, I thought, I'm going to figure out how to put some poetry in this book. I'm going to, because I miss writing poetry.
You'd Be Home Now was a really good opportunity to put that in because of the structure of the book, which was inspired by a play written by Thornton Wilder.
So You'd Be At Home Now is about Emmy, who's struggling to help her brother Joey after he returns home from rehab for addiction. And Emmy's always been the very good girl in the family, and her mother is very controlling. Very loving, but controlling.
And I wanted to write that book from Emmy's perspective because in the two previous books, the narrator is the one who's going through all the stuff. And I wanted to write a book from the perspective of someone who's watching someone go through that. Because a lot of times, like you know...
When someone else is going through that, and especially if they're in the family, you kind of become invisible. Because their struggles suck up all the energy in the room. And there's none left over for you. And I think that that...
There's so much collateral damage around addiction. Like, it touches everybody. Like, all of us have been touched by addiction in some way, shape, or form. And so Joey's addiction, it affects Emmy. It affects his parents. It affects his friends. It affects the school. Like, everyone.
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