Kathryn Gordon

How do you get people to break through that uncomfortable moment?

For sure, because life just happens. That's how I felt like, right? Like all of a sudden something big happens at work and you have to run off and handle it. Or like you said, the kids are going through a challenging time at school and they really need their mother present. It seems to make all the sense in the world as you and I are just sitting here having a conversation right now.

For sure, because life just happens. That's how I felt like, right? Like all of a sudden something big happens at work and you have to run off and handle it. Or like you said, the kids are going through a challenging time at school and they really need their mother present. It seems to make all the sense in the world as you and I are just sitting here having a conversation right now.

For sure, because life just happens. That's how I felt like, right? Like all of a sudden something big happens at work and you have to run off and handle it. Or like you said, the kids are going through a challenging time at school and they really need their mother present. It seems to make all the sense in the world as you and I are just sitting here having a conversation right now.

But in those difficult moments, how do you remind yourself? I think it takes practice.

But in those difficult moments, how do you remind yourself? I think it takes practice.

But in those difficult moments, how do you remind yourself? I think it takes practice.

To hear that you're able to impact people with these principles. And one of the reasons I think that the book resonated so well is not only were you so vulnerable in sharing these difficult moments for you, but John also was to see both of you so incredibly raw. It was shocking for me at first when I was reading it.

To hear that you're able to impact people with these principles. And one of the reasons I think that the book resonated so well is not only were you so vulnerable in sharing these difficult moments for you, but John also was to see both of you so incredibly raw. It was shocking for me at first when I was reading it.

To hear that you're able to impact people with these principles. And one of the reasons I think that the book resonated so well is not only were you so vulnerable in sharing these difficult moments for you, but John also was to see both of you so incredibly raw. It was shocking for me at first when I was reading it.

I've never read a book written the way that you wrote it. However, it's incredibly engaging because I can't wait to hear what the other one had to say in response to that event. Because To your point, of course, we're always going to see things differently.

I've never read a book written the way that you wrote it. However, it's incredibly engaging because I can't wait to hear what the other one had to say in response to that event. Because To your point, of course, we're always going to see things differently.

I've never read a book written the way that you wrote it. However, it's incredibly engaging because I can't wait to hear what the other one had to say in response to that event. Because To your point, of course, we're always going to see things differently.

And there's going to be different sides to what was happening when he was on the road versus when you were at home or it impacts people differently. So it was always so interesting and eye-opening and reflective for my own self to think about my own relationships in life and that there is always another perspective.

And there's going to be different sides to what was happening when he was on the road versus when you were at home or it impacts people differently. So it was always so interesting and eye-opening and reflective for my own self to think about my own relationships in life and that there is always another perspective.

And there's going to be different sides to what was happening when he was on the road versus when you were at home or it impacts people differently. So it was always so interesting and eye-opening and reflective for my own self to think about my own relationships in life and that there is always another perspective.

And it can always at different times be a different person that's stepping in to maybe be the leader in that relationship or take the chance or be really vulnerable, which is what I saw a lot of in the book too.

And it can always at different times be a different person that's stepping in to maybe be the leader in that relationship or take the chance or be really vulnerable, which is what I saw a lot of in the book too.

And it can always at different times be a different person that's stepping in to maybe be the leader in that relationship or take the chance or be really vulnerable, which is what I saw a lot of in the book too.

You brought up earlier that our children are seeing us model these relationships. So for everyone listening right now, if you do have kids, gosh, take the time to read this book. Take the time to apply these principles to your life and take a moment to think, are you leading a life and relationship that you want to pass and have your kids emulate? Because