Kathryn Minshew

And secondly, that there was an opportunity to do something with employers that would feel so much more human than what was honestly, frankly, the case on most classic job search sites.

Absolutely.

I mean, even today, in most cases, you are confronted when you go to those sites by a giant blank search box.

You have to type something in and you'll get 3,724 results and they all look the same.

What sort of, I mean, I'll get off my soapbox, but I am offended that for so long that was considered adequate for one of the most personal and important decisions in someone's life, which is what are you doing with your life?

What are you doing with your career?

And anyway, I won't go all the way down the rabbit hole, but I really felt like there was an opportunity to change that.

So I spent about 20K on living expenses with the first company, which was effectively research in some senses.

And I didn't spend it on research.

I spent it on rent and food and paying for a MetroCard to get around New York.

But I had about 5K left.

And to make a long story short, we had—there were four of us that started that first kind of project-slash-business, started as a project, became a business.

We had two very different visions.

And so, Alex and I, my current co-founder to this day, sort of split off.

The other two took that and made it kind of something different, took it in a different direction, and we started The Muse.

And I had about $5K left, which, frankly, was terrifying, because, firstly, I was spending—my living expenses were as cheap as I could possibly get them.

I had moved out to Brooklyn.

Probably $1,800 all in your three months runway.

Exactly.

And rent was half of that.