Kathy Kay

Right.

Yeah.

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah, because it gives creates a lot of conversation, right?

Well, listen, I always say because I'm talking to non monogamous couples a lot of the time.

And you know, I always ask them at the end, like, how has their relationship changed because of it?

And typically, it's like, Oh, my God, we're so much closer than we've ever been and blah, blah, blah.

And I've always make jokes like,

Vanilla couples don't have to go fuck other people to feel closer and intimate with each other.

All they need to do is get a hobby together or do something together that creates all this conversation and all this interaction with each other.

Because that's what happens when people start being non-monogamous.

They start to go on apps together.

They're looking at the profiles.

They're creating rules and boundaries.

They're driving together.

They're going to events.

They're getting excited.

It's not just about the fucking the other people.

It's about they just have something like really major in common and they're connecting over that.