Kathy Kay

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Yeah, I mean, that's the biggest problem.

I mean, that's not what I'm talking about.

Those are just those regular things.

It's like something new that you add in or something.

And like I said, it doesn't have to be other people.

I just think that sometimes the reason why people that do open up their relationships, they do wind up feeling closer because they just have this new thing in common and they're doing this thing together.

And they're just talking more than they ever have with each other.

And that creates intimacy.

Absolutely.

Because how much of like the not good sex that's happening in these relationships that were otherwise fine before has to do with like not being attracted anymore or just being disconnected?

Because there's a difference, right?

Or are they the same thing?