Kathy Kay

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's all because it's framed to be like a failure.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

But let's talk about them getting back together, like keeping the relationship, getting the connection back, right?

That's what these, you know, because listen, I'm talking to guys all the time.

I used to do private calls with guys a lot when I had the time.

And I was always talking to guys that, you know, the sex was out the door.

And it had been out for a long time.

And these were guys that were like very monogamous in love with their wives.

But you know, they just had not have sex in a long time.

You know, there was none of that going on.

And they were at the point where they're afraid they were going to cheat.

Some of them were cheating already.

And this was like weighing on them.

That's what they would those were what all my private calls were about.

You know, it's like a big problem that happens, you know, and because people don't want to get divorced, they stay together, but you could fix things in the

Is it necessarily that they, most of the time it's like you have to fix what's outside of the bedroom first before you get inside and fix that?