Kathy Kay

It's because I've been podcasting for that long.

And I've talked to so many swingers, so many people who are into hot wifing, so many polyamorous people.

And I'm never getting the same exact story because it's,

everybody's situation is extremely different, you know, depending on like you said, the people in there and how they set it up and what their rules and boundaries are and how it works for them.

And that's why I'm always getting new stories on because everybody's different.

You can't just it's not like one size fits all.

Yeah, how weird, right?

That if we're going backwards, it feels like it's bizarre.

Right.

Yeah.

And the more you get into a long term relationship and you grow up and you become an adult, the more like you're in like Groundhog Day.

And sometimes it's you have to be very intentional about these things because autopilot doesn't like no one's going to remind you to make that a priority.

You know what I mean?

Right.

That's important.

Right.

But let me ask you this, because you've been with your guy for so long.

And I don't know if the key to your guy's success has been because you're open and you're having other experiences as well as just, you know, being with each other.

I mean, how...

Have you guys ever gone through a time where maybe things weren't ideal in the bedroom and you guys had to check yourself and reconnect and work some of the whatever you're gonna talk about here?