Katia

But what tips can you give the men and women watching who are hitting this time of life and thinking, wow, I feel a bit lost and I don't know how to change?

Can I just say, I almost want to applaud that.

I was just about to start clapping there.

Because I think you just talked about letting, that idea of letting go and safety and beginning again is like, for somebody who is sort of stuck in that mode of, and that they aren't, they are always like that.

You know, we said fight or flight can save your life.

But if you're always there,

You just saying, letting go of feeling safe in order to begin again and do the thing you want that is your dream.

It all seems so overwhelming to someone.

I don't, I mean, if you don't mind, I would love to put that in the podcast because...

Yeah.

Well, with a lot of help from... Yeah, but this is what you're kind of trying to help people get to, where you're trying to help people get to here.

Yeah.

And the other thing, I think, is that you then, because you'd changed, you suddenly were attracting a type of man that you had never attracted before.

I think that I attracted men that weren't right for me because I wasn't right in myself.

that someone would love me it's like oh i'm good and these are ancient practices that are brilliant for you if you're if they're done right but i think this is the interesting thing about mother nature and getting older it gifts you a piece that we don't that we don't necessarily have available to us when we're younger

You know, it's so great.

Why?

How have you got there?

But and, you know, self-assessment.

I think you guys have talked before about not doing but being.