Katie Byrne

Pick a really high number for income.

I would say in Ireland, it's like 250,000.

Perfect.

Right.

Yes.

Kel Gallivan, you are always a delight.

I love chatting to you.

Thank you so much for coming on.

It's great to be on and thank you for having me.

And my thanks to Kel Gallivan, author of Mindful Money, More Money, More Freedom, More Happiness.

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Judge Ronan Munro sentenced Samantha Cook to four years in jail with the final year suspended.

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