Katie Drummond

The Oscars, we're getting there.

We're getting on YouTube.

What else would you like to see an award show like the Oscars do to kind of meet this moment, right?

You've talked about four or five years ago, it was ludicrous to think that there would be like a quote, non-traditional person on the red carpet.

Now it's all there is.

But what else?

Like where are award shows like the Oscars, but not exclusive to them, still sort of behind the times when it comes to the way people actually consume music?

entertainment, the way they find content, for lack of a better term?

But what could you win that you couldn't, like, that you couldn't submit yourself for now?

Like, is it an Emmy?

Well, maybe you just did.

I am curious for your sort of point of view on this idea of like the online creator, right?

Which is, if you think about the size of the quote unquote creator economy, right?

Like people making things on the internet and putting them on platforms.

It's like $250 billion a year, right?

Like it's massive.

And it is...

For many people, like the only thing they watch, right, is TikTok or YouTube or so on and so forth.

People like you are celebrities to those many, many millions of people like that.

It is a thing.