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Katie Ring

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609 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

can all impact development in meaningful ways.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So could a loving, stable household have changed his path?

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Possibly, but the short and somewhat unsatisfying answer is that we'll never know.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So going back to psychopathy, many psychopaths actually have an unsettling ability to blend in.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So as children, a lot of them are looked at as weird or don't fit in.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

But over time, they're able to observe how people have interpersonal relationships and they can actually model that very well.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So even though they may not feel emotions deeply, they can perform them very convincingly.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

And a lot of them aren't just good at blending in.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

They are actually very charismatic, charming, and even magnetic.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

So I think that's part of the reason Ted Bundy's story fascinated people so much.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Because before cases like this, many people imagined serial killers as monsters or some like obvious weirdos.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

But Bundy didn't fit that image.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Like he was educated.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

He fit in socially.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

He had relationships.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

and was even described as charming or even attractive, which I do not agree with, but that's what some people thought.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

Regarding the fact that a lot of his actions seemed very calculated in not getting caught, we do see most serial killers creating kind of personas to hide their crimes.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

But Bundy did take it further.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

He tended to gravitate towards positions of authority.

Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaelyn Moore
The Crimes That Changed America: Introducing America’s Most Infamous Crimes

He wanted to get into politics.